General Road and Highway Discussion

[neonjoe]

Not really - Berry's no motion was close but lost and then it wasn't a recorded vote to accept. From vote counts it seemed like Harris wasn't present last vote and that was the difference to make it a tie. Whole different discussion in there on why tie votes default to the status quo but anyways...

Hope the MTO comes through? First time I've ever said that.

Ties obviously have to result in status quo.

Otherwise, let’s simplify and suppose there are two states: “X” and “Not X”. Then whatever the current state is, proponents of the other state could put up a resolution to change the state, and win it on a tie vote. Then at the next meeting, proponents of the other state could put up a resolution to change the state, and win it on a tie vote. And so on.

But as to this particular interchange decision, this is very disappointing. Almost makes me wonder if the public active transportation orientation of some of the councillors might just be for show…

Of all the ramps in the city, I think these are among those which would be least missed even by people who use the expressway. If we can’t get rid of them, how can we make any of the more serious changes which are needed?

I use the expressway to commute to the office when I'm not working from home. I can 100% say these ramps WOULD NOT BE MISSED for anyone who is not getting off at Lancaster. The weaving these create is the only reason that there is any southbound congestion on highway 85. Without it in place the highway would have sufficient capacity, the only issue is variance of speed when drivers are entering/exiting the highway at this location that causes a butterfly effect.