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General Road and Highway Discussion
For maximal effect I think you need to have the money being spent on this and give examples of where that money could be spent for real improvements to pedestrians or cyclists. Ideally for places that have had accidents that have injured or killed people.
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'Add lanes above or below Highway 401 to ease gridlock, board of trade urges'

https://www.therecord.com/news-story/869...ade-urges/

wow.
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(06-26-2018, 01:46 PM)urbd Wrote: 'Add lanes above or below Highway 401 to ease gridlock, board of trade urges'

https://www.therecord.com/news-story/869...ade-urges/

wow.

I was going to make a snarky comment about “… or spend less than that on better transit to more effect” but then I saw they’re talking about that 5km section from Renforth Drive to the Airport expressway where the collector lanes disappear. I’m not convinced that a fantastically expensive second deck is worthwhile, but it is strange having that narrow section in the highway so it’s at least potentially worth investigating.
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(06-26-2018, 02:03 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:
(06-26-2018, 01:46 PM)urbd Wrote: 'Add lanes above or below Highway 401 to ease gridlock, board of trade urges'

https://www.therecord.com/news-story/869...ade-urges/

wow.

I was going to make a snarky comment about “… or spend less than that on better transit to more effect” but then I saw they’re talking about that 5km section from Renforth Drive to the Airport expressway where the collector lanes disappear. I’m not convinced that a fantastically expensive second deck is worthwhile, but it is strange having that narrow section in the highway so it’s at least potentially worth investigating.

IIRC, the reason for that is that the 427 bridges weren't built wide enough to accommodate the additional lanes, and the fantastical expense of rebuilding that entire interchange was foregone when the collectors were built.  You know, because we probably weren't going to focus all of the population growth in sprawling bedroom communities...I mean, that would be a short sighted policy that no government would implement right....

*sigh*.

Double decking is fantastically expensive, I wonder if it's actually cheaper than widening, or if the board of trade simply believes that the political appetite for the property acquisitions that would be required is no longer present.
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What I found shocking on a road trip through the States, was just how many places have done just this, and built, or are currently building, double-decked freeway expansions. Houston, Los Angeles, and others.

As far as I'm concerned, the bottleneck at the 427 isn't much of a bottleneck at all, considering that the 427-409 deke exists. Those sections of those highways have a little bit of spare capacity, and give the 401 an effective additional lane. Expanding the 401 will just mean fewer people doing the deke. It won't speed anyone up.
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What is the timeframe for completion for the (seemingly years of) work at Fountain/King in Cambridge?

I don’t mean to sound disrespectful to the workers, but what on earth is taking so long?
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(07-12-2018, 07:50 AM)Canard Wrote: What is the timeframe for completion for the (seemingly years of) work at Fountain/King in Cambridge?

I don’t mean to sound disrespectful to the workers, but what on earth is taking so long?

That work should be done this summer. I got an email at work last year said that utility relocations was causing a delay in completing the road. The other half of the culvert by the flour mill is finally in place and the contractor is working on backfilling it.
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Fountain Street bridge in Blair scheduled to open around Labour Day.

https://www.therecord.com/news-story/874...te-august/
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Woah... Isn't that extremely ahead of schedule? I'm positive it was supposed to be finished in 2019.
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(07-17-2018, 06:14 PM)GtwoK Wrote: Woah... Isn't that extremely ahead of schedule? I'm positive it was supposed to be finished in 2019.

I think slightly.  I think the original closure plan was for 2 years.  They started the end of Nov 2016.  The article made it sound like they were actually a little behind.  Maintaining pedestrian/cyclist access and not being able to work in the river necessitated the seemingly long construction length.  I will be glad when it is open since I live on that side of Cambridge and when there is an issue on the EB 401 it really screws up the whole area.
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On the Radio, they said the original plan was to open it fall of 2018. That seems to jive correctly in my memory of what the construction sign has said at the Blair Road Roundabout. I think they said they're a few weeks behind... but a few weeks in a 2-year project is just fine!

I'm probably in a minority, but a little part of me is (very selfishly) sad to see it open, because it's been a very blissful commute by bicycle between Kitchener and Cambridge along that way. The tight, original section between Shantz Hill and Preston Parkway will now be fairly unpleasant and dangerous to cycle on, since the new MUT ends at Preston Parkway.
For daily ion construction updates, photos and general urban rail news, follow me on twitter! @Canardiain
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(07-18-2018, 06:36 PM)Canard Wrote: On the Radio, they said the original plan was to open it fall of 2018.  That seems to jive correctly in my memory of what the construction sign has said at the Blair Road Roundabout.  I think they said they're a few weeks behind... but a few weeks in a 2-year project is just fine!

I'm probably in a minority, but a little part of me is (very selfishly) sad to see it open, because it's been a very blissful commute by bicycle between Kitchener and Cambridge along that way.  The tight, original section between Shantz Hill and Preston Parkway will now be fairly unpleasant and dangerous to cycle on, since the new MUT ends at Preston Parkway.

Probably still a minority, but you're not the only one.  I was quite disappointed when I saw that there seemed to be no infra all the way through.  Yet another piece of disconnected infrastructure.

I did enjoy exploring Preston while I was able to safely get to it, alas, no more.
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These three buildings on Ottawa between King and Charles all have Sitler Demolition signs up. I presume this is for the Ottawa St. rework. That whole block is prime for redevelopment so maybe this clean parcel will help spur something.

https://goo.gl/maps/Ka6z7jUmV1s
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(07-26-2018, 12:55 PM)Lens Wrote: These three buildings on Ottawa between King and Charles all have Sitler Demolition signs up. I presume this is for the Ottawa St. rework. That whole block is prime for redevelopment so maybe this clean parcel will help spur something.

Is that the "Corner Pub" and the old Short Stop headquarters??
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(07-26-2018, 06:53 PM)jeffster Wrote:
(07-26-2018, 12:55 PM)Lens Wrote: These three buildings on Ottawa between King and Charles all have Sitler Demolition signs up. I presume this is for the Ottawa St. rework. That whole block is prime for redevelopment so maybe this clean parcel will help spur something.

Is that the "Corner Pub" and the old Short Stop headquarters??

Yes! Not sure why but my link didn't show up before.
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