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General Road and Highway Discussion
I recently started going to the St Jacobs market again after a long hiatus, and I usually park across the street in the antique store/TSC lot. There is a constant stream of people crossing back and forth to the market, but the pedestrian crossing is set to only give a signal if you press the beg buttons that are so far from the road most people don't bother or even realize it's necessary. The result is a lot of the time a huge crowd just crosses on a "don't walk" signal. And that's nowhere near as bad as the ridiculous uncontrolled intersection leading to the outlet mall.
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Paving of Weber near Lincoln currently underway.
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I live east of the expressway, and they've basically cut off this part of the city. Victoria and Krug are closed completely, and half of Ottawa is torn up between the expressway and River, which means the only way to reach downtown is via Frederick or the other half of Ottawa, which  have been bumper to bumper the last few times I've taken them. I've been out of town for the last three weeks, so I might have just been unlucky, but the number of lanes across the expressway has essentially dropped to four from twelve. Do they not plan this construction out at all in advance? To make matters even worse, the access to the expressway at Bruce and Edna is closed to/from the north as well.

Does anyone have any sense on timelines for these projects?
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Victoria is only closed on weekends.
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(09-11-2017, 07:26 AM)greybird Wrote: Victoria is only closed on weekends.

Oh, that's a relief. Only just got back Friday at midnight, so not quite fully up on everything.
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I live in Rosemount and use Manchester road to bypass most of the construction on Ottawa. Easy access to the expressway from there as well.
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(09-11-2017, 09:57 AM)creative Wrote: I live in Rosemount and use Manchester road to bypass most of the construction on Ottawa. Easy access to the expressway from there as well.

I actually do as well, but I think a lot of people are cluing in to that option now as I noticed quite a long backup at Manchester and Nottingham the last time I went through there.
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On the subject of roundabouts, I have been pleased with the new ones that were installed on Lake Louise Boulevard in Waterloo. I have cycled through there a few times since they were finished, and I think the design is really bike friendly. Unlike most roundabouts, these ones don't try to divert bikes off the road, and the placement of the circle in the middle is such that you can actually ride straight through without having to turn at all. It's a nice ride, except for the speed humps that have been installed all the way across the road.
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(09-10-2017, 02:37 PM)jamincan Wrote: I live east of the expressway, and they've basically cut off this part of the city. Victoria and Krug are closed completely, and half of Ottawa is torn up between the expressway and River, which means the only way to reach downtown is via Frederick or the other half of Ottawa, which  have been bumper to bumper the last few times I've taken them. I've been out of town for the last three weeks, so I might have just been unlucky, but the number of lanes across the expressway has essentially dropped to four from twelve. Do they not plan this construction out at all in advance? To make matters even worse, the access to the expressway at Bruce and Edna is closed to/from the north as well.

Does anyone have any sense on timelines for these projects?

Small consolation, but you're not alone in your questions and comments  Tongue .  

As someone else pointed out the Victoria closure is on weekends, although from what I've seen it's still a bottleneck (reduced lanes) week-long.  My understanding is most of the current road/ramp closures in this area will open by the end of October.

I'm hoping a better plan is in place for when (by some reports) the Victoria bridge is closed completely for construction, as you can imagine what impact this will have to traffic levels on Frederick, Ottawa (and maybe Wellington) overpasses.
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I've seen this coming for weeks...some of the work in Uptown is being pushed to 2018:
"new timeline for road work between Erb and Bridgeport went from 14 weeks to 24.5 weeks. She said nearly 25 per cent of the project is now being deferred until 2018."

Was it all the rain that slowed things so much?
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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(09-11-2017, 06:26 PM)embe Wrote: I'm hoping a better plan is in place for when (by some reports) the Victoria bridge is closed completely for construction, as you can imagine what impact this will have to traffic levels  on Frederick, Ottawa (and maybe Wellington) overpasses.

Ideally the Bruce connector to Wellington could be pushed under the tracks first, but I suspect that's not how it's going to happen. Probably for some reason that would be obvious to me if I re-looked at the plans posted near the beginning of this thread, but ignorance is bliss... :-)
...K
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(09-11-2017, 08:48 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: I've seen this coming for weeks...some of the work in Uptown is being pushed to 2018:
"new timeline for road work between Erb and Bridgeport went from 14 weeks to 24.5 weeks. She said nearly 25 per cent of the project is now being deferred until 2018."

Was it all the rain that slowed things so much?

It wouldn't surprise me if the rain slowed it a good deal, but how much of the delays relate to that I don't know. I do believe this was also an instance of work (pipes) that could have been done in one big go with the same work being done on ION, but where businesses said it would be much better to spread out the pain, and now they are getting the consequences of that.

It really wouldn't surprise me to see with global warming (increased water temperatures causing more evaporation, increased air temperatures keeping evaporation longer, increased air temperatures causing humid air to blow farther) cause statistically higher precipitations in a lot of places around the globe, with construction cost and delay increases a logical result of this.
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(09-12-2017, 08:10 AM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: It wouldn't surprise me if the rain slowed it a good deal, but how much of the delays relate to that I don't know. I do believe this was also an instance of work (pipes) that could have been done in one big go with the same work being done on ION, but where businesses said it would be much better to spread out the pain, and now they are getting the consequences of that.

Doing the work at the same time as ION wasn't really ever on the table. The approvals for the plan only came in in time to start this year. It was actually the BIA's decision to not wait until 2018, and to get shovels in the ground immediately.
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I thought it 100% was the plan all along, and exactly as was said, it was be business owners who said "no, spread it out". So that's not the case?

What did they mean then when they said that Kig St. Work North of the tracks was removed from the scope of ION works?
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You could both be right: they could have said they wanted to remove North-of-tracks work from the scope of ION work to spread out the pain, and so the new, reduced, North-of-tracks approval only came together in time to start this year?
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