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High-Speed Rail (HSR) - Toronto/Pearson/Kitchener/London
(02-17-2019, 11:19 PM)KevinL Wrote: I get the logistical reason for starting in the central segment, but I think having visible construction progress in some bigger cities would have given the project more public support. As it stands it's a victim of ridicule; 'tracks to nowhere', etc.

Not just logistical, but also as a matter of providing much-needed support to the central California economy, which is not like the coastal economy at all. But yes, definitely more visible if near the cities. Yet building there is super hard.

Think about if our LRT went from say, Kitchener Market to Seagram. How pointless would that be? They have to build the whole thing.
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(02-18-2019, 08:44 AM)Canard Wrote: Think about if our LRT went from say, Kitchener Market to Seagram.  How pointless would that be?  They have to build the whole thing.

I think it’s worse. Kitchener Market to Seagram would actually be (somewhat) useful. Whereas my understanding of the HSR segment to be built is it’s basically just a random section in the middle of nowhere, maybe like Randall Drive to Scotch Line Road (with the long-term goal being LRT to Elmira).
It's more like Kitchener Market to Seagram on electric power and then connecting to coal power, but still on rails, up to Conestoga Mall. Merced is connected to Oakland by Amtrak service, and I hope they'll be able to run the same train all the way to Oakland, just not at high speed. Of course, North Americans these days are pretty good at doing infrastructure wrong.


Attached picture in Oakland is definitely not HSR track.

Bakersfield is pretty moderate-sized. Fresno's on the line too, and it's slightly smaller than Waterloo Region. Merced is tiny. These areas are probably not enough to justify HSR on their own. But getting to SF would be quite useful even if they didn't connect to LA. (oh, hi from LA).

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(02-17-2019, 10:34 PM)plam Wrote:
(02-17-2019, 12:37 PM)Square Wrote: I guess Ontario is not the only place with problems : https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/...l-canceled

They're still building the Central California segment. We'll see what happens with the rest of it...

The problem (well, one of the many problems) is that they started this project with only a partial budget, and it's nowhere near enough to complete the route they want (and need).
Like everyone else said, without the whole system, what's the point??
Presuming trains running from San Francisco to LA can benefit from the high-speed track in the central areas, service is still improved, it's just an incremental improvement.
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