High-Speed Rail (HSR) - Toronto/Pearson/Kitchener/London

[panamaniac]

As far as I'm concerned, it's just another study until they get to 30% design.

Yeah it's not an environmental assessment yet. It's just a study to make up the terms of reference for the EA. They can still delay it and call it off. There is an election approaching.

With any luck, it will figure in both partys' campaign platforms.  Not that that's a guarantee ....

[Canard]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="und" dir="ltr">? <a href="https://t.co/HcAOvSBFgK">pic.twitter.com/HcAOvSBFgK</a></p>&mdash; ? Iain Hendry ? (@Canardiain) <a href="https://twitter.com/Canardiain/status/952242155338321920?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 13, 2018</a></blockquote>

Almost as bad as the "Say No To Wind Turbines! Think of the Children!" crowd.

[KevinL]

Zooming in, I see this is just outside New Hamburg on 7/8. They are planning to have the high-speed track bypass that town (and Stratford and St. Mary's) and go to London more direct. I suppose whoever is behind the installation of this sign is worrying about losing property to the new right of way?

[BrianT]

The land will be expropriated for whatever route is approved by the government. Those signs are useless.

[Canard]

The location is here:

https://goo.gl/maps/Zo2q6tygeVq

I posted the "G-rated" picture. I had a not-so-nice one I took as well.

[Elmira Guy]

Oxford County wants high speed rail alternative in southwestern Ontario

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-...-1.4505926

[tomh009]

Current trains would do far better than today without level crossings. And with more frequent train service it would be much better, albeit not high-speed rail. But London wants these trains to do the milk run? That would negate all the level crossing improvements.

[Canard]

You can still have a "milk run" (lots of stops) and have HSR. This is the concept the Shinkansen pioneered - the secret being in the acceleration of the train.

The penalty for more stops is thus reduced.

[trainspotter139]

You can still have a "milk run" (lots of stops) and have HSR.  This is the concept the Shinkansen pioneered - the secret being in the acceleration of the train.

The penalty for more stops is thus reduced.

The UK also frequently mixes "milk run" and high(er)-speed service.

[Canard]

The TGV operates this way, too - all trains don’t stop at all stations. I remember waiting on the Futuroscope platform in Poitiers watching the trains interlace - one would blast by, then the next would pull in, while another blasts by - then the one at the platform would merge in.

[KevinL]

Oxford County wants high speed rail alternative in southwestern Ontario

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-...-1.4505926

Oxford County, eh? They are not set to get any stops on the current plan for the line, but it would go through its northern part. Sounds like they don't like the idea of a project using their territory but not stopping within it.

But if they want a station, I can't see where they'd put it. They don't even have a sizable town between London and Kitchener.

[kitborn]

Oxford County wants high speed rail alternative in southwestern Ontario

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-...-1.4505926

Oxford County, eh? They are not set to get any stops on the current plan for the line, but it would go through its northern part. Sounds like they don't like the idea of a project using their territory but not stopping within it.

But if they want a station, I can't see where they'd put it. They don't even have a sizable town between London and Kitchener.

We often take the VIA train from Woodstock to Toronto instead of Kitchener to Toronto. There are more frequent trains on the Windsor corridor than the Sarnia line. It would make sense to make a stop in Woodstock in this case.

[jgsz]

Oxford County wants high speed rail alternative in southwestern Ontario

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-...-1.4505926

Oxford County, eh? They are not set to get any stops on the current plan for the line, but it would go through its northern part. Sounds like they don't like the idea of a project using their territory but not stopping within it.

But if they want a station, I can't see where they'd put it. They don't even have a sizable town between London and Kitchener.

Well, there is Woodstock but I see no reason why we should support a stop in Oxford County.  The Region of Waterloo wants an interchange on the 401 at Trussler Rd. but that's on the border with Oxford County and they see no benefits and certainly don't want to pay for half of it.  So, likewise, there is no benefit to Waterloo Region by having a stop in Woodstock.

[Canard]

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[jamincan]

I call dibs on chairing the High-Speed Rail Consultation Council next year; I encourage the rest of you to apply for the Southern Ontario High-Speed Rail Review Body the following year, or the Ontario High Speed Rail Directing Committee the year after that.

Honestly, at this point you have to wonder if it isn't just a make-work program for retired transportation experts and politicians.