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Highway 7 - Kitchener to Guelph
#11
It will be four lanes (ie. two in each direction). Clasher was being droll.
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#12
(10-25-2014, 10:42 AM)panamaniac Wrote: It will be four lanes (ie. two in each direction).  Clasher was being droll.

He was referring to the fact that Outhit came out strongly against four lanes for Ira Needles boulevard because "they were not needed", only to have to reverse himself three years later.

Any similarity to people claiming that the LRT "is not needed" (a group Outhit also belongs to) is purely coincidental.
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#13
(10-24-2014, 02:03 PM)Spokes Wrote: Do we have a confirmed map of the project?

Added to original post as well.
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#14
(10-24-2014, 07:39 PM)Drake Wrote: Has there ever been an update on the Hwy 6 timeline? There seems to be progress, or perhaps progress in my imagination, when I am through that way.

You mean to improvements to the Hanlon Expressway in Guelph?

An environmental assessment has been approved to close all and convert some of the at-grade intersections to fully grade-separated interchanges. However, there is no funding for this yet, and it's not currently part of the MTO's 5 year work-plan.
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#15
(10-25-2014, 01:11 PM)The85 Wrote:
(10-24-2014, 07:39 PM)Drake Wrote: Has there ever been an update on the Hwy 6 timeline? There seems to be progress, or perhaps progress in my imagination, when I am through that way.

You mean to improvements to the Hanlon Expressway in Guelph?

An environmental assessment has been approved to close all and convert some of the at-grade intersections to fully grade-separated interchanges. However, there is no funding for this yet, and it's not currently part of the MTO's 5 year work-plan.

Yes, thanks. As a Waterloo resident, it would be a lot easier to head East via the hwy 7/6 route rather than the current 7/8 set up.
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#16
I hope someday that highway expansion (even if they are following up on 30-40 year old promises like this one) will become the last resort to inter-regional transportation after all other conventional alternatives have been funded. Would a 15-minute GO-bus departure each way cut down on the need for this highway (or perish the thought, a similar EMU/DMU service that ran Guelph to New Hamburg and back)? All I can see here is another major highway that is slicing through farmland as a relic of mid-20th century car culture.
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#17
(10-26-2014, 12:26 AM)nms Wrote: I hope someday that highway expansion (even if they are following up on 30-40 year old promises like this one) will become the last resort to inter-regional transportation after all other conventional alternatives have been funded.  Would a 15-minute GO-bus departure each way cut down on the need for this highway (or perish the thought, a similar EMU/DMU service that ran Guelph to New Hamburg and back)?  All I can see here is another major highway that is slicing through farmland as a relic of mid-20th century car culture.

We would need a lot of other infrastructure on both ends of the trip to make connections, other than by car, practical. 

I just got back from Berlin. I could get everywhere that I wanted to with out a car, but they have 147 km of U-Bahn, 331 Km of S-Bahn, 294 km of trams, plus regular buses, articulated buses and double deckers. They are still adding new lines to the system. In addition they have a large network of Regio Trains, which are used for express trips across the region. You don't see traffic jams on the roads because the majority of people use the transit system when they are travelling locally. I almost forgot, there are also hundreds of kms of segregated bicycle lanes too. It's probably going to be well over a hundred years until we might start to see anything remotely similar here. Even Toronto is pathetic in comparison and Berlin has about the same population as Toronto. Our tiny ION LRT system is only a start. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-dfl0T-SFo
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#18
I think that this highway is gonna serve a different market than anything like a GO RER service along existing rail corridors. A lot of the factories in the north end of Guelph have tons of truck traffic and a lot of people commute by car due to the hours of the shifts and lack of transit options. I would like to see more transit options made available of course and hopefully the new highway will help GO buses out. Should the manufacturing sector in Guelph contract I seriously doubt the highway will ever need to be made into a 6 lane road, I was just being facetious in my earlier post.
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#19
Here is an update from the MTO:

http://www.570news.com/2014/10/24/mto-re...expansion/

Short version is that it will take (minimum) of "5 construction seasons" to complete. 2020 or later before Clasher can get stuck in traffic on it!
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#20
(10-25-2014, 11:19 AM)BuildingScout Wrote:
(10-25-2014, 10:42 AM)panamaniac Wrote: It will be four lanes (ie. two in each direction).  Clasher was being droll.

He was referring to the fact that Outhit came out strongly against four lanes for Ira Needles boulevard because "they were not needed", only to have to reverse himself three years later.

Any similarity to people claiming that the LRT "is not needed" (a group Outhit also belongs to) is purely coincidental.

I feel like this forum should have a thread devoted to Outhit, so we can easily track his "news" articles, er opinion pieces and reminisce when he is proven wrong by history.
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