07-01-2019, 10:06 AM
(07-01-2019, 07:16 AM)danbrotherston Wrote:(07-01-2019, 12:04 AM)jeffster Wrote: Stuff like that, for me anyway, depends on the day. If there is no traffic behind me and the light(s) ahead are red, I usually stop, though I don't have to. At the same time, if I'm the pedestrian on that refuge island, I'll wait until traffic clears or someone stops. But both pedestrians and drivers need to learn the rules of the road. I've almost been run over at crosswalks (even with the flashing lights) and been given the finger (at refuge islands) while driving. Days like this, I miss my time in Toronto and Ohio where people actually knew the rules of road, both pedestrians and drivers. Though I do blame the lazy police force we have to some extent.
Please don't stop. If there is nobody behind you it will take longer for you to stop then to just proceed. If to do have someone behind you they may overtake you and hit the ped.
And yes, I only put a little blame on drivers. The real problem is inconsistent poor design and inconsistent poor laws.
Agreed. I actually find it more annoying when a single car stops — as Dan says, if they would just continue driving they would be clear and I could cross sooner than if I have to wait to make sure they’re stopped and intend for me to go.
The only time it’s OK for a car to stop is if by doing so it stops an entire lane of traffic, allowing bicycles and pedestrians to cross. Note that this implies that there is only a single lane per direction, and that the other direction is empty. There is no point in one direction stopping if the other direction isn’t.