01-31-2016, 11:51 AM
(01-31-2016, 11:04 AM)MidTowner Wrote:(01-30-2016, 09:41 PM)tomh009 Wrote: I don't think any of our roundabouts are in highly walkable/pedestrian-friendly areas. The Homer Watson/Block Line roundabout sees a fair bit of pedestrian traffic, but that's because of the nearby school.
For my own understanding, is the implication here that students or young people or whoever are less important than other types of people on foot? You just identified the Homer Watson/Block Line intersection as heavily used by people on foot, but then discounted that fact because it's a result of the school. Why would the source of the traffic matter?
I also disagree about Ira Needles. I won't claim that there's a lot of people walking there, but there are some, and we should want it to be easier for people to walk here, not even more difficult.
The comment I was responding to was about encouraging alternate modes of transport. All of our roundabouts are currently in suburban areas, and no change to the roundabout will alter the nature of those areas. So I don't see this as a conflict with our region's overall transportation planning.
And I didn't say students are less important: I simply said that there is pedestrian traffic at Homer Watson/Block Line, not because it's a walkable area, but because there is a school there. Please don't put words in my mouth.
What do you disagree with about Ira Needles? My statement that it's not highly walkable or pedestrian-friendly area? Or some statement that I did not make?
(01-31-2016, 11:04 AM)MidTowner Wrote:(01-31-2016, 08:17 AM)tomh009 Wrote: This setup should include a (pedestrian) fence for the 30m distance from the roundabout to the crossover to discourage exactly that.
The crossover will inconvenience cars, too, yet we would not accept drivers ignoring it. Why should we accept pedestrians ignoring it?
Actually, we accept drivers breaking a number of different rules.
I'm not talking about any random rule (whether pedestrians, bicyclists or car drivers). I'm talking about ensuring the safety of this intersection. Should we not ask both drivers and pedestrians to use and respect the crosswalk and its rules?