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Walking in Waterloo Region
Some cyclists may be comfortable using the bike Lanes and uncomfortable using MUTs but the vast majority of cyclists are not comfortable near traffic like that. If we want to make cycling widespread then MUTs should be preferred and as a cyclist who prefers bike Lanes I'm willing to admit that my wishes shouldn't be prioritized. Of course, a road like this leaves plenty of room for both, which the region occasionally accommodates. The real answer is of course as Highlander points out, if the region bought a copy of CROW and used it then we wouldn't need both but apparently that's just a crazy idea.
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(09-19-2017, 09:11 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: if the region bought a copy of CROW

I think I need you to spell out what that means.
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I believe the Shirley Ave project was an MTO initiative, so they may have different standards with respect to new cycling and pedestrian infrastructure.
The new traffic lights don't use the standard ROW hanging mounds but the typical mounts that are used when installed on MTO maintained roads.
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(09-19-2017, 09:17 AM)timc Wrote:
(09-19-2017, 09:11 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: if the region bought a copy of CROW

I think I need you to spell out what that means.

http://www.crow.nl/publicaties/design-ma...raffic-(1)
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(09-19-2017, 09:07 AM)MidTowner Wrote: A wide sidewalk doesn't have to be an MUT. It could just be a wide sidewalk.

That's what I was thinking.  To me, if we want to accommodate (and balance the priority of) both bicyclists and pedestrians, and we have enough room for bike lanes + sidewalk, then there should really be two options:
  • Bike lane for bicycles, sidewalk for pedestrians (an extra-wide sidewalk would be nice but I don't know how many pedestrians will actually walk here)
  • A single segregated MUT with a bike lane and a pedestrian lane
As Dan says, some bicyclists are not comfortable near cars.  But similarly some pedestrians are not comfortable near bicyclists.  So to me segregation between the two is better, space permitting.  Giving bicycles a lane and a half (bike lane + 1/2 MUT) while pedestrians have to share the MUT with the bicyclists doesn't seem like a good balance to me.
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I don't think anyone could find fault with anything that Tom just said.
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(09-19-2017, 09:11 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: Some cyclists may be comfortable using the bike Lanes and uncomfortable using MUTs but the vast majority of cyclists are not comfortable near traffic like that.  If we want to make cycling widespread then MUTs should be preferred and as a cyclist who prefers bike Lanes I'm willing to admit that my wishes shouldn't be prioritized.  

Yeah, it should have been a MUT. It should have been 2 MUTs, one on each side.

That road is fast, and there are a lot of heavy trucks going to the various industrial businesses. It is not a pleasant place to be cycling right next to traffic. Given how spread out destinations are, there is going to be nearly inconsequential pedestrian traffic, and I don't see a shared path being a problem at all.
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I was checking out the Ottawa St. North reconstruction today. They have the new sidewalk poured, and this pole is right in the middle of the new sidewalk, lol
Why not just get rid of it or I hope they move it more east of the sidewalk. https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4498649,-...312!8i6656
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So I just got back from biking through the Shirley Ave. redo. At 10:30 this morning there was what I would call above average traffic than before the realignment but in no way what I would consider busy. Yes it appears that there will be a sidewalk all along the Bingemans side where there was previously none. Although not fully paved or marked, there will be bike lanes on both sides that appeared to be fairly wide. More than comfortable for me who chooses to primarily ride on MUTs, and avoids roads whenever possible. And speaking of MUTs, there already exists a beautiful MUT that runs all along the Grand River through Bingemans from River Bend Dr. to Victoria St. I saw no pedestrians or cyclists on Shirley but at least 6 other cyclists and more than a dozen walkers on the MUT.
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(09-18-2017, 12:10 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: In other news, are WRPS officers actually allowed to be texting on their cell phones.  I heard they were permitted to use their computers when the need arises, but at lunch I walked past one who was very plainly using a cell phone at the light.

So frustrating, they should be setting a good example for the people around them.

Technical answer: Yes, they are exempted from the law if being used for actual official business. Each cruiser has a cell phone, and it is used for communication between officers and dispatch when the radio isn't appropriate or to keep the air clear for other reasons.

Where I work, I am also exempted from the handsfree law, and my employer only recently added Bluetooth devices, but most times they fail to work. So I will be in a marked vehicle speaking to my supervisor, knowing full well how horrible the optics are for members of the public.

Honest answer: If s/he were using a personal cell phone, then yes I agree it needs to be dealt with.

Coke

[Although in fairness, I am guilty in my personal life of texting at stop lights, even though it could warrant a ticket. When the vehicle is in motion, phone is away]
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The Grand River Trail through there will be closed during the construction of the new highway bridges.
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For daily ion construction updates, photos and general urban rail news, follow me on twitter! @Canardiain
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(10-13-2017, 04:49 PM)Canard Wrote:

That's awfully square. In Dinan, France I've seen square intersections with squares filling in the corners, if that makes any sense. It was kind of weird.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@48.4554868,-...6656?hl=en
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I really feel badly for the business between the Ion tracks and Erb having to endure years of construction. I hope they can survive a few more months.

Here is one of the latest access challenges from the last few weeks near Famoso Pizza:
   

Not sure how anyone with a wheelchair, scooter, a stroller, or even broad shoulders is expected to fit through there.
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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