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Walking in Waterloo Region
Stop me if I'm wrong about how these things work.

The lights along Erb street are synchronized in a green wave. Why can't the bicycle signal at the spur line crossing be configured to automatically change in sequence along with signals at other cross streets? At least during the daytime?
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(02-15-2017, 01:14 PM)timc Wrote: Stop me if I'm wrong about how these things work.

The lights along Erb street are synchronized in a green wave. Why can't the bicycle signal at the spur line crossing be configured to automatically change in sequence along with signals at other cross streets? At least during the daytime?

While this is a one way street, which makes green waves easier, I suspect this is something that is possible in theory, but doesn't really work in practice.  I'm not an expert though, and have no idea about this particular situation.

There are different schools of thought, some planners in the Netherlands argue that green waving is such an intractable problem that minimizing wait time at each individual intersection is more effective.  And that's what I think can and should be done here.  If the light sequencing was improved, and the sensor was moved back 50 - 70 meters from the intersection, so as to trigger it 10-20 seconds before arriving, I would expect that the majority of cyclists approaching the intersection would get a green on arrival, without affecting flow of traffic.  This would be far better than the current situation.

Of course, I'm not an expert, so I can't really say for sure that this is better, but surely there is some way to model this to determine.  I wish I had the skills/resources to do so.
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The Region of Waterloo 2016 Collision Report
http://calendar.regionofwaterloo.ca/Coun...df#page=96

• The number of collisions involving pedestrians increased by 6% (113 in 2014 to120 in 2016).

Top 10 Pedestrian Collision Locations (http://calendar.regionofwaterloo.ca/Coun...f#page=104)
1 King St at University Ave WAT
2 King St at Bishop St CAM
3 River Rd at Holborn Dr/Access to Stanley Park Mall KIT
4 Westmount Rd at Victoria KIT
5 Erb St at Erbsville Rd/IRA Needles Blvd KIT
6 Ainslie St at Main St CAM
7 King St between Andrew and North to Signal (Central /KCI) Bridgeport Rd at King St KIT
8 Kingsway Dr (multi-res driveway) at Wilson Avenue KIT
9 King St at Queen St KIT
10 Block Line Rd at Strasburg Rd KIT

The first 10 ranked pedestrian collision locations for 2016 shows that there were 3 locations moving into the top 10 list. The Erb Street at Erbsville Road/Ira Needles  roundabout ranked #16 in 2014 and now ranks #5. The intersection of Kingsway Drive and Wilson Avenue ranked # 24 in 2014 and now ranks #8. The intersection of Block Line Road and Strasburg Road ranked #12 in 2014, now ranks #10 in 2016.
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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And King/University makes the top of the list again. Not terribly surprising.
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Number 3 on the list surprises me a bit. I would have thought the Ottawa side of Stanley Park Mall would be much worse. Also, what's up with number 7? Does that indicate a tie between King/Andrew area and Bridgeport/King?
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(03-03-2017, 09:28 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: And King/University makes the top of the list again.  Not terribly surprising.

Still think that intersection screams for a scramble
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On Stanley Park Mall, the buses all stop near the Holborn exit, so there are typically a lot more pedestrians in that area.
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(03-04-2017, 09:27 AM)greybird Wrote: On Stanley Park Mall, the buses all stop near the Holborn exit, so there are typically a lot more pedestrians in that area.

True, but there's a crosswalk right there. I'm inclined to think this would have more to do with people crossing at the trail.
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Top downtown location (King/Queen) is only #9, and uptown doesn't even make the list. Slower speeds and only one lane in each direction.

Oh, and yes, less traffic due to LRT construction in 2016. Smile
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(03-04-2017, 01:41 PM)Chicopee Wrote:
(03-04-2017, 09:27 AM)greybird Wrote: On Stanley Park Mall, the buses all stop near the Holborn exit, so there are typically a lot more pedestrians in that area.

True, but there's a crosswalk right there. I'm inclined to think this would have more to do with people crossing at the trail.

Not just the pedestrians there, but that exit from the Walmart half of the parking lot has a lot of people quickly checking in the direction of the lights for oncoming before peeling out.
Although I have to suspect that a number of them are also related to their number of apartment buildings right across the intersection along Holborn - I've had a couple close calls with a few people running out between the buildings on the NE corner (presumably) trying to catch a bus.
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Talk about adding insult to injury

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/kitch...-1.4066318
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I know that intersection well. It definitely has its problems - two shopping centres, kitty-corner around with high density housing (townhomes one side, high-rise apartments another). Lots of pedestrian traffic, but then an intersection of two arterial roads (with right-turn slip roads all around! no waiting!) makes for easy conflict if a pedestrian isn't willing to walk all the way to the light to cross.
My Twitter: @KevinLMaps
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Quote:Ottawa Street South just west of Westmount Road East

Huh Ah, KW, the perfect home for the directionally challenged.
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Here's the intersection.
The accident happened on Ottawa, on the west side of the intersection.
I'm guessing the person was crossing the street roughly where the mall frontage is.

   
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