01-19-2017, 11:45 AM
(01-19-2017, 11:02 AM)SammyOES2 Wrote: There's a pretty high correlation between where a vehicle is and where the people that own/operate that vehicle regularly are as well. And I think you'd be surprised at how well that data can be used to derive a lot of very personal information about you. Where you work. Where you shop. What activities you participate in. Etc.
For the Rogers comment, that's certainly true. But its something you opt-in to. And you can opt-out of as well.
Storing violating data seems reasonable. Loss of rights is one of the reasonable consequences of doing something wrong. And storing non-violating data locally for a shift also seems entirely reasonable to me.
And I 100% disagree with statements like "If someone is so concerned about Big Brother knowing where their car is parked, then don't park using a city owned space [Lot or on-street], or if you are doing something illegal or unethical and need to hide your location, hire a cab/Uber.".
While I agree there are correlations, they are not absolute. (A city lot doesn't provide for only one business/employer... info could be obtained you shop in Uptown or work in the Charles St W area, but not specifics)
I am well aware of data collection... I know my store loyalty cards record what I buy, and provide coupons for things tailored for me.
I can't opt-out of Rogers/Bell/Freedom knowing where I am w/o turning off my signal. The opt-out is unreasonable, no different than you can opt-out of plate collection by not owning a car.
It seems we agree that the current "status quo" is reasonable, and I hope Waterloo means "as long as necessary" is a reference to violation data until a court date.
While many value their privacy more than I, I made that statement as there are always ways to avoid Big Brother's eyes (at least in the now). Pay at a private or city lot. No one is forcing you to use the privacy violating (aka "free parking") option. My second line goes to those who refuse to accept responsibility for their actions, and instead blame others (ie. The woman who sued Rogers for sending detailed billing and her husband learned of her affair (https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2010/05...posed.html), The cheating spouse caught with her boyfriend in a red light camera ticket (http://blog.photoenforced.com/2011/10/re...ating.html), the suspect who's alibi was disproven as his cell phone was traced using cell towers to be at home, then the site of a murder, then back home (https://www.digitalforensicsmagazine.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=608).
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