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Parking in Waterloo Region
(03-30-2018, 04:32 PM)Canard Wrote: Huh?  I thought we just said that the Kitchener Market had free parking?  And that is what people are all up in arms over?

Underneath the market there is some free parking (but, of course, not enough). The streets around the market are kind of hopelessly busy at 10:30 for instance. A few streets away at Duke and Scott there is some parking which used to be free, but which is no longer free. Across the street from the market you can park at the racquet club for $3, but it of course gets full too.
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(03-30-2018, 12:08 PM)KevinL Wrote: I think once the rapid transit station opens a 100m walk away, they will have no excuse not to charge.

In principle, excellent rapid transit could reduce demand for parking and therefore make it more likely that no charge is the appropriate price.

Except that if free is the right price, then replacing the lot with something more profitable should be considered.
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(03-30-2018, 05:33 PM)plam Wrote:
(03-30-2018, 04:32 PM)Canard Wrote: Huh?  I thought we just said that the Kitchener Market had free parking?  And that is what people are all up in arms over?

Underneath the market there is some free parking (but, of course, not enough). The streets around the market are kind of hopelessly busy at 10:30 for instance. A few streets away at Duke and Scott there is some parking which used to be free, but which is no longer free. Across the street from the market you can park at the racquet club for $3, but it of course gets full too.

Duke and Scott? The Market Square parking garage? That might have been free while the Market was renting space in the building, but now that's very much not the case any more.
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(03-30-2018, 05:33 PM)plam Wrote:
(03-30-2018, 04:32 PM)Canard Wrote: Huh?  I thought we just said that the Kitchener Market had free parking?  And that is what people are all up in arms over?

Underneath the market there is some free parking (but, of course, not enough). The streets around the market are kind of hopelessly busy at 10:30 for instance. A few streets away at Duke and Scott there is some parking which used to be free, but which is no longer free. Across the street from the market you can park at the racquet club for $3, but it of course gets full too.

It's free for vendors, for now. Not free for customers (on Saturdays). Details here:
https://app2.kitchener.ca/parking/parkin...?tid=12248

Quote:Hours of Operation:
6:00 am - 10:00 pm Monday - Saturday
Monthly customer - 24 hours access
Hourly Rate: 0 - 2 hrs $3.20, $1.65 per 1/2 hr thereafter
Sunday - Free Parking
Daily Maximum: $14.50
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Wait, so...

they charge for parking under the market?

...so what's the issue? Huh
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That's good. I had no idea. I didn't pay when I went a few months ago. I'm fairly certain it wasn't in error--the gates were up. Maybe it's a new thing.

The only issue is it will increase the pressure on the small amount of nearby free parking. There is of course an easy solution to that too.
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(04-01-2018, 07:24 PM)Canard Wrote: Wait, so...

they charge for parking under the market?

...so what's the issue?  Huh

Too many people trying to park in a limited space. So they intend to encourage people (both vendors and customers) to park in either Market Square or Charles & Benton garage.

While this is just parking, I am happy to see the popularity of the Saturday market.
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Sometimes it feels like an Abbott and Costello routine around here.

There is no charge to park at the market on Saturday mornings between 7am and 2pm:
"Free on Saturdays from 7 a.m. - 2 p.m., Free Sundays, Monday - Friday $3.20 for the first two hours, $1.65 for each additional 1/2 hour to a daily maximum of $14.50."
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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So ... it seems that the City of Kitchener (which owns the parking garage) and the Kitchener Market (which runs the market) don't agree on whether Saturdays are free or not.
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(04-02-2018, 08:54 AM)tomh009 Wrote: So ... it seems that the City of Kitchener (which owns the parking garage) and the Kitchener Market (which runs the market) don't agree on whether Saturdays are free or not.

Yeah. I think it requires on-the-ground investigation on a Saturday. It's hard to keep different parts of the same org in synch.
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Having driven to the underground parking at the market twice in the last 30 days with mobility challenged visitors my personal experience is that there is no fee.
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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https://www.therecord.com/news-story/857...headaches/

:: fetches popcorn ::
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Sigh.

Quote:Cheaper parking at Charles and Benton will only partly address the problem, since many shoppers and vendors won't walk that far.

Maybe true, but it's a sad reflection on our society that most people are not willing to walk three blocks. (And this is not referring to elderly or disabled people.)
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Yes it is. I actually walked from uptown Waterloo to there last weekend (And that is a lot more than 3 blocks).

I am sure that some of these people that are complaining about walking 2 blocks would not even get out of their car if they could drive it right into the building up to the vendor kiosk if they could.
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You have to wonder what solutions exist, because people are going to continue to behave the same way until we develop some sort of system to change the behaviour. Perhaps parking facilities could update their capacity in real-time so that people would no in advance that a particular garage is full and go to a further one with available parking first. That sort of data could then potentially be incorporated into mapping software so that you would be directed to the nearest available parking instead of the actual location.
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