06-26-2015, 07:45 PM
(06-26-2015, 12:01 PM)zanate Wrote:(06-24-2015, 07:37 AM)numberguy Wrote: A classic case was the tragic death of an architect rode through a stop sign and got killed:
https://nowtoronto.com/news/transportati...n-du-toit/
Do you enforce laws? Do you get blamed for enforcing laws?
What point in particular is making you raise this case?
This sounds like a person riding a bike rode through a stop sign into traffic. If I were a supporter of Idaho stops for cyclists (which I am) I'd still say that the this person made a mistake and should have come to a complete stop if there was traffic on Roxborough. But even if they did, the sight lines are terrible and if you're at the stop line, you're not in a position to tell if the intersection is clear.
(We've got a situation like this in town, at Roger & Bowman. Clearly, traffic on Roger has the right of way. But stopping at the stop line is pretty pointless and it's a 3-4m careful roll to see around the $#&*ing hedges. The difference is that at least traffic from the right is on the far side of the street, unlike the situation in Toronto where someone coming from the left is really close. Caution required.)
So, yeah. Stop sign. Whether you're in Ontario or Idaho, a person on a bike shouldn't proceed through the intersection until they see it's clear.
I agree. Read the comments and the Now article itself. Many of the comments blame the driver.
So I am curious, how do you better enforce the law to reduce incidents such that? Law enforcement of HTA vis a vis cyclists seems spotty. This is admittedly anecdotal and based on /r/Toronto with the daily pedestrian/cyclist/driver hate posts.