12-07-2020, 05:37 PM
(12-07-2020, 03:31 PM)dtkvictim Wrote:(12-07-2020, 02:18 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: The Ontario "compromise" was cancelling Ontario St. North/East of King.
Hardly a compromise, as usual killing cycling infra to make exclusive space for cars.
I was extremely disappointed, frankly, hurt by Jordan (Legacy Green's owner) opposition to the project, she was not in favour of any of it, but wanted to know how to kill Ontario St...which she succeeded in.
I won't be shopping anywhere where the owner explicitly opposed my safety in the city.
I see the summary of changes now on Engage. Quite disappointing indeed, but if I had to sacrifice any single block of the project to make the rest of it go ahead, it would probably be that block on Ontario. I would be optimistic that they used "deferred" as their choice of language, but I've long given up on trusting anything other than actions.
I quite infrequently shopped at Legacy Greens, but this will certainly be a consideration in visiting in the future.
Yeah, I mean, I live on Ontario, so selfishly, it affects me a great deal, but the loss of Duke St. was bigger, and also the loss of the Water St. cul-de-sac is a real shame, and I mostly only walk that way.
I'm frankly, angry about that for reasons I let council know today (that neighbourhood is toxic, it consistently kills active transportation projects).
But ultimately, even with these compromises, the project is worth doing, and got passed today unmodified with a near unanimous vote (only 'Johnny Gaz' dissenting), and hopefully it will pass at city council next week.
In terms of being labeled "deferred" I think it's wishful thinking, a "deferred" project is basically killed...it would take an enormous effort to bring it back, and frankly, that just isn't going to happen for a small piece. I am taking a long term bet on that project actually which is to say that in 10 years there won't be a bike lane on Ontario between King and Duke.
Edit: I should mention on Duke St., staff seem optimistic that it will actually go through eventually. Frankly, I don't know where they find their optimism, but given they should know better than I, that is some hope for optimism for Duke at least.