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King and Victoria Intermodal Station
#46
For all the project drawing posted, are there ones for the LRT in Waterloo?
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#47
You can find a summary of all documentation here:

http://rapidtransit.regionofwaterloo.ca/...nplans.asp

http://rapidtransit.regionofwaterloo.ca/...eement.asp (Schedule 15-2)
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#48
(11-22-2014, 10:42 AM)Canard Wrote: You can find a summary of all documentation here:

http://rapidtransit.regionofwaterloo.ca/...nplans.asp

http://rapidtransit.regionofwaterloo.ca/...eement.asp (Schedule 15-2)

It's interesting to note the various ways drawings have evolved since the functional design plans (which date from 2011.) The project agreement plans are going to be more relevant now. Personally, I'm disappointed by the fact that with so many turn bays, we've lost the room for de facto bike lanes from much of King Street.

Also, I think we should expect to see some (probably small) changes as the project proceeds. With other aspects of the agreement, the project team has already signalled that this is what the consortiums were bidding on and agreeing on, but some details of the agreement may be negotiated later. (Such as the service plan.)
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#49
(11-21-2014, 05:40 PM)Drake Wrote: This diagram refers to Breithaupt St as Moore Ave. I realize the logic, but nobody knows who the Moores were. Or is it just me?

From the Waterloo Region Hall of Fame here is one locally prominent Moore who was likely active when Moore Ave was named:


Quote:John Douglas Moore (1843-1917)

John Douglas Moore was one of the pioneers born in Canada who received his schooling in the little log schoolhouse in Dickie Settlement. The family farm in North Dumfries was purchased by his English father and Scottish mother from the Hon. William Dickson for only four dollars an acre. Moore eventually owned seven hundred acres and besides being a very successful farmer, also grew hops at Preston for thirty years.

Farming and agriculture were not his only interests. In early life he served on the township council, became reeve, and later warden of Waterloo County. A prominent Liberal, he was MPP for Waterloo South from 1891 to 1898, under Premier Sir Oliver Mowat.

In 1910 he became county registrar. He was a charter member of the Galt, Preston and Hespeler Railway, director of the Brantford Binder Twine Company, and president of the Berlin Robe and Clothing Company, reflecting his executive ability.
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#50
That is Moore Ave. Breithaupt does not actually intersect with King- Moore does, and Briar intersects with Moore a few meters away.

Neighbours have told me a lot of anecdotes about the street names in this neighbourhood- I have heard that Briar Ave (a small street between Moore and DeKay) was the name of the farmer who owned the land where the neighbourhood now sits. It was formerly Bierwagen Ave (and too bad it no longer is). Likewise Emma (a street a block away, even smaller) was his wife.

Nobody has been able to tell me for whom Moore was named, though it was actually given its name at the same time Briar was, in the 1950s. In other words, after John Moore was active, but maybe still named for him. It used to be Charon (and you can still see this name on pavers and such in a few places in Midtown).
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#51
(11-25-2014, 08:20 AM)MidTowner Wrote: That is Moore Ave. Breithaupt does not actually intersect with King- Moore does, and Briar intersects with Moore a few meters away.

Neighbours have told me a lot of anecdotes about the street names in this neighbourhood- I have heard that Briar Ave (a small street between Moore and DeKay) was the name of the farmer who owned the land where the neighbourhood now sits. It was formerly Bierwagen Ave (and too bad it no longer is). Likewise Emma (a street a block away, even smaller) was his wife.

Nobody has been able to tell me for whom Moore was named, though it was actually given its name at the same time Briar was, in the 1950s. In other words, after John Moore was active, but maybe still named for him. It used to be Charon (and you can still see this name on pavers and such in a few places in Midtown).

Sorry, silly of me: only Kitchener's section of what is now Moore Ave (then Charon) would have been changed, to match Waterloo's. John Moore was indeed likely active when the name for Moore Ave South (i.e. in Waterloo) would have been chosen.
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#52
(11-25-2014, 08:20 AM)MidTowner Wrote: That is Moore Ave. Breithaupt does not actually intersect with King- Moore does, and Briar intersects with Moore a few meters away.

Neighbours have told me a lot of anecdotes about the street names in this neighbourhood- I have heard that Briar Ave (a small street between Moore and DeKay) was the name of the farmer who owned the land where the neighbourhood now sits. It was formerly Bierwagen Ave (and too bad it no longer is). Likewise Emma (a street a block away, even smaller) was his wife.

Nobody has been able to tell me for whom Moore was named, though it was actually given its name at the same time Briar was, in the 1950s. In other words, after John Moore was active, but maybe still named for him. It used to be Charon (and you can still see this name on pavers and such in a few places in Midtown).

Then why do the signs on King St identify that intersection as Breithaupt if it is actually Moore? Surely the city knows the name of the road it is signing.
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#53
I suspect that if you could find an old map, you would find that the King/Breithaupt/Moore configuration was altered when the present building was constructed (early 1950s?). When the old Kitchener Luggage was on the site, I'd wager that Breithaupt ran directly to King St.
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#54
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(11-25-2014, 05:07 PM)panamaniac Wrote: I suspect that if you could find an old map, you would find that the King/Breithaupt/Moore configuration was altered when the present building was constructed (early 1950s?).  When the old Kitchener Luggage was on the site, I'd wager that Breithaupt ran directly to King St.

Yes it did.  This map from the City Engineer's Office Kitchener Ont. Nov. 7, 1923 (from Recollections of 125 years) shows Breithaupt running to King St. 

   

 
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#55
I think we've strayed a little off topic for a little too long
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#56
^Amen.
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#57
I actually really hope that a conscious effort is taken in designing and constructing the Station to pay homage to the "Warehouse District." I think that it would be very suitable to choose a characteristic design for neighbouring street signs, and to locate art or sculptures and plaques that speak to the way that the neighbourhood originally came about.

I still think that "Warehouse District" is a good opportunity for some meaningful branding, and I hope the architecture "fits" and that the station interacts suitably with the Breithaupt Block and the other nearby buildings from the same era.
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#58
This is going to be the main hub, centre of the city, surrounded by Google, School of Pharmacy, 1 Victoria, Kaufman lofts nearest stop to Kitchener city hall, connection point to Toronto via Go Transit and you want to name it after some warehouses that were there 50 years ago? Okaay.
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#59
(11-26-2014, 11:21 AM)BuildingScout Wrote: This is going to be the main hub, centre of the city, surrounded by Google, School of Pharmacy, 1 Victoria, Kaufman lofts nearest stop to Kitchener city hall, connection point to Toronto via Go Transit and you want to name it after some warehouses that were there 50 years ago? Okaay.

When did I say I wanted to name it anything?
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#60
Pay homage to old warehouses to be more precise. I'm not saying we should ignore its past, but there is so much more there than old-abandoned-buildings only-recently-renovated to fashion an entire image around that.

We should have a branding that both acknowledges its past, but also looks towards the future. Kind of like the Breithaupt block that has a renovated old portion and a modern looking new building side by side.
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