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King-Victoria Transit Hub
Crowne Plaza has a room that can accommodate over 600, and probably rooms enough to accommodate a total of 2000. I wonder how well its conference facilities do.

It does seem like it would be a great place for a hotel.
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(11-17-2017, 08:08 AM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote: [quote pid='44961' dateline='1510891522']
This doesn't seem like the correct assumption. The region, in their consultations, will decide how much Floor Spare Ratio they have to work with (some very low proposals were on the table, and lower ones brought up by residents). You only need look across the street at SIXO's proposal to know that they can pretty much do however much density they like and still move it. It's instead a question of how many jobs and people the region and Kitchener thinks are fitting for the most connected and central plot of land in our region (hint: it should be at least as much as any other site in the region, be it student complexes in Northdale, or SIXO, or Charlie West's height)

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Well, we have no idea how much they can move. We only know how much they have proposed in their marketing materials.

This is definitely the place for density. Hopefully the Region approves a lot of it, and let the developer built it out over however long is needed for the market to absorb it.
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I'd rather see a hotel or offices here than residential. Residential next to a station I can see; on the station seems a little odd to me.
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I recall way back in the mists of the first LRT proposal, when the hub would have been on the other side of King (this was before the University purchased the Pharmacy school land), a conference centre was in the plans for the site. Later revisions did not make that an explicit component.
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(11-17-2017, 03:16 PM)KevinL Wrote: I recall way back in the mists of the first LRT proposal, when the hub would have been on the other side of King (this was before the University purchased the Pharmacy school land), a conference centre was in the plans for the site. Later revisions did not make that an explicit component.

Was that before or after the Olympic size swimming pool proposal?
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I don't recall that one, sorry!
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(11-17-2017, 02:52 PM)DHLawrence Wrote: I'd rather see a hotel or offices here than residential. Residential next to a station I can see; on the station seems a little odd to me.

The site is pretty big.... residential would likely be only on one portion of it, not right on top of the station. One concept had hotel, condos, office, convention centre, and retail! so cool
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I'd certainly buy a condo there! Big Grin
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I think we'll see some sort of development where the base and transit components can be built with towers added on later.
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(11-17-2017, 02:27 PM)robdrimmie Wrote:
(11-17-2017, 07:09 AM)jamincan Wrote: I have no idea what the market is for hotels in KW right now, but this would be a excellent location.

I would love a hotel with conference facilities capable of supporting upwards of 1000 people. I am pretty sure it would be terribly unsuccessful but I feel it's something the city is seriously lacking. Bingeman's and Lot42 are so terribly inconvenient.

Agreed, and in this location it would be possible to have events to which people can easily get to from Toronto (once train service is running).
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(11-19-2017, 11:44 PM)mpd618 Wrote:
(11-17-2017, 02:27 PM)robdrimmie Wrote: I would love a hotel with conference facilities capable of supporting upwards of 1000 people. I am pretty sure it would be terribly unsuccessful but I feel it's something the city is seriously lacking. Bingeman's and Lot42 are so terribly inconvenient.

Agreed, and in this location it would be possible to have events to which people can easily get to from Toronto (once train service is running).

So maybe it could make sense in one of the later phases, when we might (!) have all-day GO service running ...
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RFP for HUB to be issued.

Update here.

"The transit-related components of the project are targeted to be complete by the end of 2021 with full build-out of the private mixed-use development expected by the end of 2027, subject to market demand."

"It is expected that the Steering Committee will make a final recommendation for Council approval by November, 2018."

• Developer to be selected in 2017-2018.
• Construction may begin as early 2019.
• All transit features, that allow buses and trains to arrive and depart from the transit hub, are anticipated to be completed by 2021- 2022.
• Mixed- use development with space for retail, office and residential uses are anticipated to be completed between 2023 – 2028.


" The proponent will be required to work with the artist to incorporate the commissioned piece into their final design. Additionally, the proponent will be required to include embedded art into their design." ($300,000 for free-standing public art to be funded from proceeds of sale from the project.)

"it is recommended that the Region require 5% or 30 units of affordable housing, whichever is less, to be provided under the terms of the Capital Grant and RDC Grant programs...Based on other developments in the vicinity, it appears more likely that condominiums will be proposed. Based on expected sales prices, the amount of Regional funding
needed to support affordable housing at this site is likely prohibitive. Accordingly, the Steering Committee has proposed that the Region apply a portion of the net proceeds from the disposition of the KVTH Lands to facilitate construction of affordable housing units."


Some of the many Design Requirements
• Gateway into downtown
• Maximize the site's overall development potential.
• Civic character; exhibited through scale, materiality and quality
• The revised zoning allows for greater density, more diverse uses and nomaximum height limit
• A strong street podium defines King and Victoria Street
• Reinforce and emphasize the landmark nature of the development, featuring contemporary, innovative and high quality architectural design
• Towers shall be taller near the intersection of King and Victoria to create a focal point over the Transit Hall and lower near Rumpel Felt building to provide a transitional scale to the neighbourhood to the east
• Maintain and enhance neighbourhood connectivity.
• Iconic facility within the City of Kitchener’s Innovation District
• Respects the history of the area and catalyzes further development
• Use the entire 1913 Rumpel Felt building i.e. do not rely on conserving the facade alone
• Pedestrian walkway intended to connect pedestrians and cyclists to both the Iron Horse Trail in the west and the Waterloo Spur Line Trail in the east
• Pedestrian Access will be at two levels
• Vehicle access from Duke St is limited due to Transport Canada requirements
• The bus loop will accommodate five bays for coach buses, three lay-bay spaces and one mobility mini-bus bay
• The developer must provide 87 bicycle parking stalls in the School of Pharmacy Access, GO/VIA level in proximity to Transit Hall, Transit Plaza and Public Square near the major entrances.
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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So when the RFQ went out, there was only one response, does this mean we are limited to 1 or less responses for the RFP phase?
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(03-18-2018, 06:38 AM)rangersfan Wrote: So when the RFQ went out, there was only one response, does this mean we are limited to 1 or less responses for the RFP phase?

Yes. If you follow the links, you will find this:
Quote:An RFQ process generated one qualified submission from King Victoria Transit Hub Partners Inc. (KVTH Partners Inc.), which is a consortium of Ellis Don Capital, Kilmer Group and Perimeter Development Corp. The next step in the process, as directed in report COR-FFM-17-17/COR-TRY-17-87 dated October 3, 2017, is to invite KVTH Partners Inc. (the proponent) to respond to a Request for Proposal (RFP) for purchase by negotiation.

I am quite happy with the requirements they have laid out. Now let's see what KVTH comes up with.
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I wonder how they arrived at requiring 87 bicycle spots.
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