06-05-2020, 09:32 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-05-2020, 09:34 PM by danbrotherston.)
(06-05-2020, 09:09 PM)tomh009 Wrote:(06-05-2020, 07:17 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I am not a civil engineer either, but I know of a number different options.
One would be to use a product to fill in the flangeway, there are a few rubber products, which will be depressed by the weight of the LRV, but which fill the flangeway so that a bicycle wheel cannot get stuck in it.
Assuming this is a good solution, this seems simple, and could be retrofitted in after the fact (ie now). And it sounds like the cost would not be high. Is that correct? Might you have link to such a product?
Unfortunately, I cannot find the site I (and others) sent to the regional engineers years ago. Here's an article mentioning these tramway flanges used in Zurich https://www.streetfilms.org/cyclists-vs-...in-zurich/ , but it is not a link to an english site.
Unfortunately, as I understand it, the price would be very high, it needs to be embedded in the track, it basically replaces the existing embedded rubber...I'll call it a gasket...surrounding the track, as a result, the products I am aware of would require ripping up all the concrete around the tracks...this would be rather expensive. It's possible a different product is available or could be developed to retrofit into the flangeway but I am not aware of any such product.
The best I think could be reasonably accomplished would be something like the top right of page 13 on this document: https://altaplanning.com/wp-content/uplo...o_ALTA.pdf
That could be accomplished with paint and a sign, if we were willing to rework some surface concrete that could be even better. It's not ideal, the sidewalk is poorly suited as a MUT, it's too narrow, and the intersection is terrible. But that ship has sailed, we are stuck with that unfortunate poor design. But with a little paint and a sign it could be miles better. But I don't see that ever happening. I can't even get the regional staff to put a freaking bag on this bullshit pedestrian signal https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.453664,-8...312!8i6656 which protects peds from all the many drivers driving through the bloody retaining wall. They just do not care one iota. And it seems most of our council does not either.