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ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit
(05-06-2017, 10:36 AM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote:
(05-06-2017, 07:49 AM)jamincan Wrote: I think the suggestion is that the structure of a P3 increases the odds of certain details being missed and the resolution potentially being unsatisfactory. Does the contractor go back to the Region and point these out, or do they just build to spec?

You build to spec. Usually, that's where the quickest, easiest money is. And then if they want it changed, it's a change order that needs to happen, and that's a lot more money than trying to bring it up with the Region and only getting paid to build the right thing, instead of the wrong thing, then take it down, then do the right thing. My experience with this comes from a relative who manages some of the big construction companies in the GGHA, and the money is always available because government contract writers never know all the details or their impacts, but if you're party to conversations with the builders, they'll be able to tell you months or years in advance of a shovel hitting the ground just what is wrong with what they're too happy to be paid to do, and how much it will cost to undo and redo it after the fact, and the profits it gives them. This is not to suggest that they are a bunch of bad people, just that they are in the business of making money, and any dollar you leave on the table to be taken, they will do their best to get it, whatever the optics of the means to that end might be.

However, this is exactly the same scenario for, say, SIXO or Charlie West as well: they will contract out the construction, and the company will build it to spec.  Unless you have your own construction company, or you're willing to do it on a time-and-materials basis, you need to spec out the work that needs to be done.  There is no inherent reason why the city or the region should not be able to manage this as well as Momentum or Zevest does.
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RE: ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit - by tomh009 - 05-06-2017, 01:42 PM
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