10-05-2016, 02:03 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-05-2016, 02:04 PM by danbrotherston.)
(10-05-2016, 11:43 AM)Markster Wrote:(10-04-2016, 10:56 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: WRT to the left turn at the bike box. The region has indicated that right turns on red at bike boxes are prohibited, I would assume left turns on red are similarly prohibited. Of course, given that this is not marked anywhere, nobody really knows, and everyone turns anyway.
As both a cyclist and a driver, I had no idea that this is a thing they claim.
Ultimately, if they don't have "no right(/left) on red" signs, then it's just talk, and no action.
I definitely agree, it's another pointless bylaw. I doubt the police will even know to enforce it. This was mentioned on one tour at some point, by someone from CoK.
This bike box however, we all know is stupid, it exists because when the intersection design was done...what, 10 years ago or more now, the city/region had a completely different idea of bike infra from what they do now. Of course, now has its problems too, like, lack of safe and legal crossings. Frankly, as a cyclist, I've given up following the law, I do what's right, and if the police want to ticket me, I'm happy to have a day in court.
WRT to bike boxes in general though, I like them, they're very useful where a bike lane ends, because they give me an obvious moment to merge into traffic instead of risking getting squeezed out at the intersection. And obviously, they're important for left turns. Frankly, I do left turns in the "bike box" way most of the time anyway (at least when I'm approaching a red), but it does occasionally freak out drivers making the left in the other direction who think I might continue all the way through the intersection. It's far less uncomfortable than merging through 2-4 lanes of speeding traffic.