11-08-2018, 01:12 PM
(11-08-2018, 01:09 PM)tomh009 Wrote:(11-08-2018, 12:55 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: What we need at these intersection is definitely a barndance/scramble. In fact, it is actually a benefit to vehicle traffic, because right turning vehicles (which are prohibited on red) can proceed without obstruction on green. It would make sense on every intersection on University. It would be a very small start to correcting the dumpster fire that is University Ave.
However, with a scramble, the wait between green signals is typically longer as there are three phases rather than two. And students (the majority of pedestrians in this area) are not know for their patience ...
There's definitely a challenge there, although it doesn't have to be the case that there's a longer delay, for example, there could be a scramble phase between both directions...
The biggest challenge is King/University where the lanes are ridiculously wide (some of the individual lanes are 6 meters wide I mean, WTF) in all direction, so crossing times are very high, still, the walk sign can be very short (if people and traffic engineers alike stop thinking of pedestrians as cars), so the overall impact isn't huge, and wait times can still be reasonable.