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Vertikal (471-481 King St E) | 23 & 19 fl | U/C
(07-31-2023, 04:11 PM)ac3r Wrote: No, I'm not suggesting we should be relaxing safety standards or using slave labour. Though you'd have to be very naïve to think every worker on the job is practicing safety standards down to the book lol. I could take you to any job site in this region and point out a dozen issues just standing on the ground, then even more if we went up the building. Yeah it's bad to do but the guys working on job sites are cutting corners when it comes to safety because it is quite honestly excessive at times. I feel more at risk just crossing a busy stroad in this region than I do not having a harness on entirely or being fully anchored when working at heights.

Yeah. I have plenty of friends and family working in the trades so I'm pretty aware that they, broadly speaking, taking safety pretty uh... loosely. Even so, the difference between now and 100 years ago is astronomical.

(07-31-2023, 04:11 PM)ac3r Wrote: We could easily build something very quickly if we want to, but we don't because there is no will power to do so anymore and less pride in what we're achieving as a nation.

There is no willpower to accomplish things we can be proud of as a nation, because are not really a nation. We are simply a state, and no more.

(07-31-2023, 04:11 PM)ac3r Wrote: I just think as a country we need to be more proactive, progressive, determined and prideful about what we're doing for ourselves. One reason China is able to do what it does so fast is partially due to the number of workers they can throw at things, but there is also a strong current of idealism that drives what they've been achieving over the last few decades. When they build a couple high speed rail lines, subways, entire new cities and other infrastructure projects like dams or mines it is because they are guided by overarching theoretical narratives driving their society, such as common prosperity or Chinese modernization. In North America we don't really have such ideals to rally behind like we once used to. Irrelevant of the labour practices in our past, when we were developing fur trades, ports, national railroads, highway systems, the health and education system, our space program and so on people felt there was a greater purpose to accomplishing these things for the greater good of society. These days, everyone is just in it for the money and that's why there's a housing crisis and developers like Vive flip properties like this as a side gig. If we want to build things the way the Chinese do, we need to collectively agree to accomplish that.

See above. What you are describing are essentially nation building exercises, a direction that Canada is choosing to move further away from. A society focused on fostering a diversity of people, thoughts and ideals will inherently be more individualistic and have fewer shared common goals. I don't really have an answer here, but I think a different approach than something like Common Prosperity is required for Canada to achieve both goals.

Overall, I agree with your points here, but your previous post from my view was saying something quite different.
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