Grand River Transit

[jeffster]

It's not defeatist at all. If we want vibrant safe communities for young families we still need this type of development. It's simply not going to stop because some people don't like houses and cars.

*rolls eyes*...can you drop the nonsense, just because you grew up in a miserable car dependent suburb doesn't mean everyone wants that for their children. There is nothing vibrant about car dependency and suburban sprawl, and there's strong evidence that it isn't good for young famillies.  It's also the case that there are vast swaths of the city already built this way and it is in fact the walkable livable areas that are in desperately low supply. Of course, none of that really change the fact that the real problem is the fact that your development is unsustainable---young families probably also want to have a planet for their children to live on in the future.

But you're just going to accuse me of hating cars and houses.  Clearly we are not even on remotely the same page, nor do you care to be.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul_xzyCDT98&ab_channel=NotJustBikes

I for one, do not want to raise my child in such an environment, and that is one reason that we will probably leave KW.

“*rolls eyes*” — that says a lot about you. You are 100% incapable of showing other people any respect and having a mature conversation, what are you? 15? And I did NOT grow up in a miserable car dependant suburb. That shows you don’t know anything. I have no idea who shits in your Wheaties everyday for you aggressiveness, but obviously something is happening.

For what it’s worth, I grew up in DTK, or at least very close (Victoria and Lancaster). We did leave because of interactions with addicts, even back then. Currently I live in a very old section of the city (housing dates to the 1930’s), however, no transit as it was canceled for Ion. Secondly, my daughter was molested on a city bus, so no matter the case, she will never ride transit again, and she certainly isn’t alone with having an experience on GRT.

And yeah, families DO want to have a livable planet for their children. But guess what, NOTHING we do will make a difference. All it will do is make people live elsewhere, and depress the economy. We’re a small country population wise, with a huge area. We’re not the problem. And I have been preaching, and no parishioners obviously, cars will be mostly electric in the future.

And why do I accuse you of hating cars and houses? Because you have nothing positive to say about them. I can speak positively about GRT, I can speak positively about walking, I can speak positively about biking. I do all 3. But I won’t force other to do them, nor have a hate on for primary travel, the car.

You really do need to put yourself in other peoples feet. To understand why they choose what they choose. You feel that apartment living for you, and your family (this assumes you have children) is great. Nothing wrong with that. Perhaps you are lucky and have great co-tenants. Perhaps you have a great super and property manager. Perhaps you have no desire to have people visit you and chill outside when we have great weather. But not everyone is you.

Maybe one day, you will have to take care of an elderly relative, a kid with a disability. Maybe one day you’ll appreciate the spare time you get by having quick transportation. Maybe then, you’ll understand why some people rely on cars. Not everyone’s world is as perfect as yours, and you better hope that yours doesn’t change.