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Grand River Transit
Looks like early 2018.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/mikeboos">@mikeboos</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/srlake">@srlake</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/KenSeiling">@KenSeiling</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/DaveJaworsky">@DaveJaworsky</a> Bundles 1+2. 3 to come back with an early 2018 implementation and possible 2018 pre-approval.</p>&mdash; Berry Vrbanovic (@berryonline) <a href="https://twitter.com/berryonline/status/819314381502681089">January 11, 2017</a></blockquote>
(01-12-2017, 07:55 AM)dunkalunk Wrote: I think we can infer that LRT opening has also been pushed to Sept 2018. The Ottawa iXpress is supposed to coincide with ION opening.


...no. Smile Early 2018.
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I don't think that's a laughable inference. The 205 iXpress should certainly open no later than Ion. Hopefully it is launched in early 2018 to coincide.

I take exception to the Record's wording that transit improvements "had an easier ride" in budget deliberations. What does that mean? That line is preceded by a quote by Councillor Clarke saying that she wanted to monitor the new resources given to ambulance services. Was there no debate before council voted to approve two of the three transit improvement bundles? That doesn't seem likely.
I'm laughing at the idea that we'd let an almost $1bn piece of rail infra sit idle for almost a year just because we want it to synch up with a "bus route change". I keep reading all this "but it has to line up with the bus route changes in the fall" and I just don't buy it.

The busses can accommodate the train opening date. They'll figure it out. It's just a bus.
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That's not what dunkalunk was saying. He was saying that, if GRT is preparing to delay the 205 until late 2018, it means they suspect that Ion will be delayed until late 2018.

Ion doesn't need to line up with the bus routes, the bus routes should line up with the launch of Ion, whose launch is indeterminate. We don't know, but I suspect (as others have suggested) that bus route changes will happen at another time of year, even if that's not GRT's normal practice.

We're not talking about "just a bus," though, we're talking about brand new routes.
The idea with ION opening is that it signals a bunch of transit pattern changes. Several of its stops are not served by the 200, and it will require current users to adjust travel patterns. Making changes all at once seems to be more frustrating than any individual trickle of change, but when you trickle down changes such that a person might have to relearn a different part of their route every few months, the add-up of those effects is far worse. When you put a bunch of changes together, too, it can be easier to market and generate excitement for.
There is an extensive network rebuild in southwest Kitchener planned to coincide with Ion launch, just one part of which is the 205. The 3, 11, 12, 22 and others will be thoroughly overhauled at the same time. To not coincide the 205 launch with Ion would throw deep chaos into those plans.
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It's nice to see increased frequency on the 201/202.

I don't think that a delay of implementation of the 205 means that ION will begin service in the fall. Ideally, according to the plan, the 205 was to begin service this year to build ridership in anticipation of ION. There just wasn't enough money to do that. From the report:

Quote:The Route 205 does not exist yet so its implementation could be delayed to 2018. However, without implementing the Route 205 along Ottawa Street in 2017, the route will not be able to develop ridership in anticipation of the ION implementation. The route will then need to be implemented in 2018 to integrate with ION, adding resource needs in 2018. Other route improvements in south-west Kitchener are contingent upon the 205 iXpress being operational and would be impacted if this is delayed. "

By the way, has the UW transit plaza plan been finalized?
(01-12-2017, 04:42 PM)timc Wrote: By the way, has the UW transit plaza plan been finalized?

Well, all public consultation is complete, so as far as we the public are concerned, yes it is. I doubt we'll see any new drawings before they start construction.
You can watch the debate at the link below. It starts at about the 37:35 mark.
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