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GO Transit
GO Buses returned to Charles Street Terminal today, with the added stops at King / Victoria.

Interesting observation - looks like the existing (8100-series) double deckers are now banned on routes 25 (local only) and 30 - Only the SuperLo (8300-series) double decker buses or highway coaches are allowed, according to GO's GTFS data. 

Sure enough, all buses I saw today on route 25 were of the SuperLo variety. Any reason for the ban would have to be height clearance issues in Kitchener. It can't be at Charles Street Terminal, though, since GO buses stop on the farthest lane, where there is no overhead bridge.

Perhaps the LRT overhead wires in downtown Kitchener are too low for the older decker buses?

Bus height (for reference)

8100-series double decker - 4.15 m
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8300-series SuperLo double decker - 3.9 m
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That's a great guess, and I could totally imagine that that's the case. I didn't realize there were different height variants of the double deckers - cool!

You seem to know a lot about them - I'm quite curious and would like to take one some time for a run into Toronto and back, and try to get a "front seat ride" on the upper deck. Is there generally a "rush" to get the best seat up there? If one were to board at the Charles St. Terminal on a run headed to Toronto, is it already full from the previous stops?
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(04-08-2017, 08:56 PM)Canard Wrote: Is there generally a "rush" to get the best seat up there?  If one were to board at the Charles St. Terminal on a run headed to Toronto, is it already full from the previous stops?

Your best chance at a choice of seat is when there are fewer university passengers aboard. Choose a time when fewer of them would be travelling (not on evenings, Fridays, weekends generally). Alternately, board at the first stop at UW.
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(04-08-2017, 09:41 PM)KevinL Wrote:
(04-08-2017, 08:56 PM)Canard Wrote: Is there generally a "rush" to get the best seat up there?  If one were to board at the Charles St. Terminal on a run headed to Toronto, is it already full from the previous stops?

Your best chance at a choice of seat is when there are fewer university passengers aboard. Choose a time when fewer of them would be travelling (not on evenings, Fridays, weekends generally). Alternately, board at the first stop at UW.

^ what he said. The front row seats fill up early (even if the rest of the bus is empty) - the best bet is to go catch it at UW.

Route 30 running out of Kitchener GO and Charles Terminal is also a good idea, and it's also the fastest way to Union (via train from Bramalea GO). However not all trips are done by double deckers. 

Best way to check which trips have double deckers is via the GTFS feed: https://transitfeeds.com/p/go-transit/32/latest/routes

Select a route and then select a date to travel. Then, click on a certain trip and check the Block ID. ID numbers starting with DDL (double decker low) or DDS (double decker SuperLo) are designated double decker trips.
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Not on the Kitchener line, but...

Today in Bureaucracy!

The Minister of Transportation announced a pilot project to install a Tim's at 4 GO Transit stations.


My take:
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"Will commuters be interested in coffee?" Markster, what a card!
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I'm surprised that Justin Trudeau himself didn't show up for such an important announcement and photo op. After all, it is something as important as coffee we're talking about! Big Grin

I completely agree that the market should decide who occupies the space, instead of another monopoly provided to Tim Hortons.
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They may well have requested proposals from multiple vendors. Regardless, I do expect they are looking for a single vendor across the whole GO system rather than contracting with a different one at each station.
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Yeah, its totally reasonable for the Government to look for one vendor that handles everything.

It's not reasonable for that vendor to be appointed (I have no idea if they were or weren't).

Edit: Although I certainly agree with the sentiment about the "trial run".  I'd think lots of companies would be comfortable taking the risk.
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The reason for the trial may be to test the revenue generated (either for Kilmer or GO, or both). I suspect Metrolinx wants to know its ROI on doing station renos for coffee kiosks. I have nothing to back up that suspicion, though.
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It is kind of unfortunate switching to the shorter buses. I'm assuming they're shorter inside, and given the larger ones were just barely tall enough for me to stand.... but if it's necessary.
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(04-13-2017, 03:45 PM)tomh009 Wrote: They may well have requested proposals from multiple vendors.  Regardless, I do expect they are looking for a single vendor across the whole GO system rather than contracting with a different one at each station.

Will I be able to use my Presto Card at every government sanctioned coffee shop and get points on one of my frequent spender cards?   Huh
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(04-17-2017, 09:47 PM)MacBerry Wrote:
(04-13-2017, 03:45 PM)tomh009 Wrote: They may well have requested proposals from multiple vendors.  Regardless, I do expect they are looking for a single vendor across the whole GO system rather than contracting with a different one at each station.

Will I be able to use my Presto Card at every government sanctioned coffee shop and get points on one of my frequent spender cards?   Huh

Not yet, but if it goes the route of Hong Kong's Octopus card (which can be used for such purposes), then maybe...
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My goodness the ceilings are low in the super low height double decker buses. I'm slightly above average height but I am bending down quite a bit on both floors.
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(04-17-2017, 10:47 PM)KevinL Wrote:
(04-17-2017, 09:47 PM)MacBerry Wrote: Will I be able to use my Presto Card at every government sanctioned coffee shop and get points on one of my frequent spender cards?   Huh

Not yet, but if it goes the route of Hong Kong's Octopus card (which can be used for such purposes), then maybe...

I loved Suica in Japan! Top up as much as you like, as often as you like - works on virtually every single transit system there, and I could even buy my breakfast every day at Lawsons or 7-Eleven with it. Vending machines even accepted Suica!

Since Credit isn't really a thing there in Japan, Suica kind of fills the need for having something "like cash" but much more easy to manage (just tap).
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