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ION Stage 3 Speculation - Facts, Theories, Speculation, Rumors!
#11
(06-04-2018, 12:05 PM)Canard Wrote: Victoria makes so much sense, for all the same reasons they want to put it down Hespeler Road/Hwy. 24 in Cambridge.  The "look" of both areas is very similar, and the desire to intensify them should be the same.

I agree !!!
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#12
Wouldn't a rail intersection at university require a grade separation according to Transport Canada since freight still uses the spur line
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#13
(06-04-2018, 02:08 PM)C Plus Wrote: Wouldn't a rail intersection at university require a grade separation according to Transport Canada since freight still uses the spur line
The freight line is already running on LRT tracks, so no.
Grade separation is needed elsewhere, because those lines have to allow for double height cars, which would interfere with overhead wires. No double height rail cars run on the spur line.
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#14
(06-04-2018, 02:18 PM)Markster Wrote:
(06-04-2018, 02:08 PM)C Plus Wrote: Wouldn't a rail intersection at university require a grade separation according to Transport Canada since freight still uses the spur line
The freight line is already running on LRT tracks, so no.
Grade separation is needed elsewhere, because those lines have to allow for double height cars, which would interfere with overhead wires.  No double height rail cars run on the spur line.

Don’t count on it! Tongue

What I want to know is what sort of connection between the two crossing lines they would put in. I suspect that it might be too much to hope for a grand union!
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#15
How many kilometres would a line be that started at Conestoga Mall and ran down King to University, over to Erb, down Ira Needles, and across town on Victoria (or Highland/Belmont/Victoria) to the transit hub?
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#16
(06-04-2018, 09:43 PM)panamaniac Wrote: How many kilometres would a line be that started at Conestoga Mall and ran down King to University, over to Erb, down Ira Needles, and across town on Victoria (or Highland/Belmont/Victoria) to the transit hub?

~16 km:

   
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#17
Given current plans, here's my fantasy map for Stage 3.

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Stage 1/2 ION
Laurer-Waterloo Park station decomissioned.
Infill stations at McCormick, University Ave (to intersect with University line/develop UW South lots/UWP), Perimeter Institute (Barrelyards), Agnes (filling the gap between GRH and Central), Highway 401 (built in conjunction with GO/Greyhound Park and Ride). Politically, Stage 2 needs to happen before Stage 3, despite Stage 3 likely being more viable.

iXpress
Routes largely unchanged. 201 and 202 iXpress routes end at UW terminal. New bus-only road is built through Conestoga College campus, and crosses the Grand River on a new bridge required for the 8/401 flyover on the South side of the 401.

University ION
Built as an extension from Conestoga Mall to the Boardwalk like the preliminary plan. Intersects with Stage 1 ION at University Ave. Station spacing is tighter in the University/Northdale district to serve development.

GO Stations
Additional stations built in Baden (at Nafziger Rd), Kitchener West (South of the Boardwalk), and Baden (Greenhouse Rd). Hourly all-day, two-way service to Toronto with additional bi-directional peak trains.

Grand Trunk RER
Runs between New Hamburg and Guelph along the Double-Tracked, GO owned, Electrified Guelph Subdivision. Runs every 15 minutes between Ira Needles and Region of Waterloo International Airport. Potential extensions to New Hamburg and Guelph (could feasibly be run as a GO service). Connects with ION service at Kitchener West GO and Central Station.
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#18
In a fantasy world where nothing is ridiculous, one would hope they would grade separate at University and Columbia on Phase 1. Phase 1 drop into a trench north of Seagram and rise north of Columbia. The issue of whether or not the grade would be too steep for the freight arises, but in this fantasy world, that isn't an issue because it isn't.

The alternate would be to drop University and Columbia below the tracks, space permitting.
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#19
(06-05-2018, 04:37 PM)dunkalunk Wrote: Infill stations at McCormick, University Ave (to intersect with University line/develop UW South lots/UWP), Perimeter Institute (Barrelyards), Agnes (filling the gap between GRH and Central), Highway 401 (built in conjunction with GO/Greyhound Park and Ride). Politically, Stage 2 needs to happen before Stage 3, despite Stage 3 likely being more viable.

We must be neighbours. Agnes would be extremely useful for me, but I can't see it being justified for a long time. GRH and Central are barely a kilometre apart, and there's not a lot of call for a stop at Agnes (it would be nice for the elementary students).
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#20
I did used to live off of Shanley, however, not anymore. The thinking was that if LRT stops are within 500m, there's not really a need for a local bus service on that street anymore and buses could be moved over to Park or more where that can provide better coverage of the Cherry Hill  and Mount Hope neighbourhoods. In addition, the midtown corridor is zoned for mid to high density mixed-use, so an additional station will help serve new residents.
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