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The Breithaupt Block Phase III | 12 fl | Proposed
(05-11-2018, 08:16 AM)urbd Wrote:
(05-02-2018, 01:03 PM)PassTheBruce Wrote: Also, I'm surprised they haven't added a pedestrian bridge to the existing buildings?

This is intentional. They want people to activate the street level, going in and out of buildings (yes, even in winter), which is great in my opinion.

At this point the new building is not a Google building, at least not yet. If it does become one, a bridge could become a consideration -- it may have been (an optional) part of the design, even if it's not shown on the renders.
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(05-11-2018, 08:16 AM)urbd Wrote:
(05-02-2018, 01:03 PM)PassTheBruce Wrote: Could they at least make the exterior walls of the parking garage interesting to look at? Some kind of large scale art or mural ? I'm fairly sure there are options other than blank concrete that could make the whole thing more palatable. Also, I'm surprised they haven't added a pedestrian bridge to the existing buildings?

This is intentional. They want people to activate the street level, going in and out of buildings (yes, even in winter), which is great in my opinion.

There is a bridge between 51 Breithaupt (old brick) and 28 Breithaupt (glass sculpture). It's there because the lower floors of the west side of 51 are occupied by non-Google tenants, so the ground-level path is roundabout, but the top floor is Google. Also, weather.
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(05-11-2018, 09:39 AM)tomh009 Wrote:
(05-11-2018, 08:16 AM)urbd Wrote: This is intentional. They want people to activate the street level, going in and out of buildings (yes, even in winter), which is great in my opinion.

At this point the new building is not a Google building, at least not yet. If it does become one, a bridge could become a consideration -- it may have been (an optional) part of the design, even if it's not shown on the renders.

(05-11-2018, 10:25 AM)kps Wrote:
(05-11-2018, 08:16 AM)urbd Wrote: This is intentional. They want people to activate the street level, going in and out of buildings (yes, even in winter), which is great in my opinion.

There is a bridge between 51 Breithaupt (old brick) and 28 Breithaupt (glass sculpture). It's there because the lower floors of the west side of 51 are occupied by non-Google tenants, so the ground-level path is roundabout, but the top floor is Google. Also, weather.

Ok Phase 3 is fully, 100% intended for Google, even the ground level (as in, there will likely be no ground floor retail). A bridge between Phase 3 and 2/1 is not being considered at all. They want employees to move between buildings by using the street. This comes from people in the design team and from Google.
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(05-11-2018, 08:30 AM)ijmorlan Wrote:
(05-11-2018, 08:16 AM)urbd Wrote: This is intentional. They want people to activate the street level, going in and out of buildings (yes, even in winter), which is great in my opinion.

Frankly, that’s silly. If somebody needs to get from their office to a meeting in the other building, they just want to get there, and forcing them to put on their coat and trudge through slush just so they can “activate the street level” is absurd, and won’t work in any case.

What’s so magic about the elevation at which the cars travel, anyway?

The weird thing is that we get this sort of thing from planners from here, not just California imports.

The elevation at which cars travel is also the elevation at which people walk through cities. This is not a suburban office park.
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(05-11-2018, 01:31 PM)urbd Wrote: The elevation at which cars travel is also the elevation at which people walk through cities.

Well that's no fun.


   
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(05-11-2018, 01:31 PM)urbd Wrote:
(05-11-2018, 08:30 AM)ijmorlan Wrote: Frankly, that’s silly. If somebody needs to get from their office to a meeting in the other building, they just want to get there, and forcing them to put on their coat and trudge through slush just so they can “activate the street level” is absurd, and won’t work in any case.

What’s so magic about the elevation at which the cars travel, anyway?

The weird thing is that we get this sort of thing from planners from here, not just California imports.

The elevation at which cars travel is also the elevation at which people walk through cities. This is not a suburban office park.

Um, that is true only because there are no bridges! I see some circular reasoning not very far away from where we’re standing…
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(05-11-2018, 01:29 PM)urbd Wrote: Ok Phase 3 is fully, 100% intended for Google, even the ground level (as in, there will likely be no ground floor retail). A bridge between Phase 3 and 2/1 is not being considered at all. They want employees to move between buildings by using the street. This comes from people in the design team and from Google.

Where is this coming from? The proposal shows ground floor retail.
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(05-12-2018, 05:10 AM)MidTowner Wrote:
(05-11-2018, 01:29 PM)urbd Wrote: Ok Phase 3 is fully, 100% intended for Google, even the ground level (as in, there will likely be no ground floor retail). A bridge between Phase 3 and 2/1 is not being considered at all. They want employees to move between buildings by using the street. This comes from people in the design team and from Google.

Where is this coming from? The proposal shows ground floor retail.

Yes, something like 9,000 or 10,000sq ft of retail space.
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(05-12-2018, 05:10 AM)MidTowner Wrote:
(05-11-2018, 01:29 PM)urbd Wrote: Ok Phase 3 is fully, 100% intended for Google, even the ground level (as in, there will likely be no ground floor retail). A bridge between Phase 3 and 2/1 is not being considered at all. They want employees to move between buildings by using the street. This comes from people in the design team and from Google.

Where is this coming from? The proposal shows ground floor retail.

And plan approval may be based on the presence of retail space ...
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(05-12-2018, 08:14 AM)panamaniac Wrote:
(05-12-2018, 05:10 AM)MidTowner Wrote: Where is this coming from? The proposal shows ground floor retail.

Yes, something like 9,000 or 10,000sq ft of retail space.

Who's to say that it won't be a Google Store of sorts? Perhaps selling only Google "Branded" stuff or not, but you do have a lot of electronics that are made by or for Google.
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(05-12-2018, 08:14 AM)panamaniac Wrote:
(05-12-2018, 05:10 AM)MidTowner Wrote: Where is this coming from? The proposal shows ground floor retail.

Yes, something like 9,000 or 10,000sq ft of retail space.

(05-13-2018, 12:58 PM)tomh009 Wrote:
(05-12-2018, 05:10 AM)MidTowner Wrote: Where is this coming from? The proposal shows ground floor retail.

And plan approval may be based on the presence of retail space ...

(05-13-2018, 08:11 PM)jeffster Wrote:
(05-12-2018, 08:14 AM)panamaniac Wrote: Yes, something like 9,000 or 10,000sq ft of retail space.

Who's to say that it won't be a Google Store of sorts?  Perhaps selling only Google "Branded" stuff or not, but you do have a lot of electronics that are made by or for Google.

True to all of the above, but what i'm saying is that the current intention is ground floor office space... as in, Google needs as much office space as it can get. This could change of course or could be a condition of approval, to have ground floor retail, however, some ground floor retail units sometimes are used as office space.
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I keep getting physical mail on updates on this development from the city. How do I unsubscribe so they don't send me anymore mail?
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(05-22-2018, 10:33 PM)jordan2423 Wrote: I keep getting physical mail on updates on this development from the city. How do I unsubscribe so they don't send me anymore mail?

Call 519-741-2345 -- That's Customer Service for Kitchener 24/7. They'll direct you.
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