09-24-2019, 10:07 PM
(09-24-2019, 07:18 AM)danbrotherston Wrote:(09-24-2019, 07:11 AM)ijmorlan Wrote: Thanks for the clarification. I am inclined to believe your first sentence above, and I agree with the second. However, I do question whether actually being able to demand identification upon issuing a ticket is really a draconian authority. It seems obvious to me that there is no point in issuing a ticket to an unidentified individual. The only people who will ever be affected by being ticketed are people who aren’t used to lying to bylaw officers; routine offenders will quickly learn a false identity to give.
At least for the police, a person who chooses not to identify themselves, or who the police believe has given them a false identification, can be detained.
As for whether it is truly draconian, here's a question, what is the penalty for not carrying "papers"?
Unless you're driving or committing a crime, you don't have to provide anything to the police, yet alone by-law. At that point, the police have to arrest you, and they, the police, have to deal with the consequences of a false arrest, and whatever else SJW type lawyer can throw at them, hence why police just normally move onto the next idiot that will play ball with them.
The City of Waterloo is going down a very, very dangerous road here, and trying to strong arm a solution that is going to backfire in their face, with the real potential of inciting a riot and the consequences at that. I'm not the brightest bulb out there, but even I know this is all dimwitted thinking on their part.
As I mentioned before, if they really want to solve this without issues, construction season begins in the middle of March, as does water main maintenance and line painting and sidewalk work. As does fire alarm checking. Send out a notice to all those that will be affected by that maintenance work, to give them a head up, get a noise exemption, and start working a 5 am.