09-24-2019, 07:18 AM
(09-24-2019, 07:11 AM)ijmorlan Wrote:(09-23-2019, 08:46 PM)Bob_McBob Wrote: This is a huge overreach by the city, especially considering the extraordinary powers of warantless property searches and seizures bylaw enforcement officers already have in Ontario. I have major safety concerns about Ezra, but draconian bylaws and probably illegal policing powers are not the way to solve it.
Thanks for the clarification. I am inclined to believe your first sentence above, and I agree with the second. However, I do question whether actually being able to demand identification upon issuing a ticket is really a draconian authority. It seems obvious to me that there is no point in issuing a ticket to an unidentified individual. The only people who will ever be affected by being ticketed are people who aren’t used to lying to bylaw officers; routine offenders will quickly learn a false identity to give.
At least for the police, a person who chooses not to identify themselves, or who the police believe has given them a false identification, can be detained.
As for whether it is truly draconian, here's a question, what is the penalty for not carrying "papers"?