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Superlinx
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An idea that would see 11 public transit systems ( including Waterloo Region) integrated into one larger system.

http://www.570news.com/2017/11/29/new-pl...-response/

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/kitch...-1.4422467



One thing that I would love to see is a unified fare system, or if you bought a transit pass it would work for any system in Ontario.
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#2
"New plan to integrate GTA and Waterloo Region transit networks met with luke warm response"

Sounds promising  Tongue
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#3
I would also love to see a unified system. Anxious to see what the “Superlinx” logo would look like! I love the new ML branding.
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#4
A unified fare system is a great idea and could probably work without everything being under one big umbrella.

Have to say though that I agree with Ken Seiling:

"Our real concerns are with our rail linkages and GO Train linkages with Toronto and that’s already covered off by Metrolinx, we already have an organization that is doing that and working on that, so I don’t see how a super large body would advance that.” said Seiling.

Seiling says he is also concerned about local issues taking a back seat to Toronto issues, “I think there is a risk that the whole plan to build more subways in Toronto and some of the problems they have in the GTA would put at risk some of the issue we have to deal with.”
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#5
This would only have a chance of working IF it is truly separate from political influence, at either the provincial or municipal level. Otherwise, as Ken Seiling says, one region or project can sway things too far.

Metrolinx is already too heavily influenced by the political winds; let's get that fixed before we dream bigger.
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(11-30-2017, 09:55 AM)SammyOES Wrote: A unified fare system is a great idea and could probably work without everything being under one big umbrella.

Have to say though that I agree with Ken Seiling:

"Our real concerns are with our rail linkages and GO Train linkages with Toronto and that’s already covered off by Metrolinx, we already have an organization that is doing that and working on that, so I don’t see how a super large body would advance that.” said Seiling.

Seiling says he is also concerned about local issues taking a back seat to Toronto issues, “I think there is a risk that the whole plan to build more subways in Toronto and some of the problems they have in the GTA would put at risk some of the issue we have to deal with.”

Yes. Unified fares do work in Switzerland, but then again everything works in Switzerland. I'm not thrilled with Toronto dominating our transit system. But it's the Toronto Board of Trade, so it's just probably something that people would talk about but no one would actually implement.
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(11-30-2017, 04:27 PM)plam Wrote:
(11-30-2017, 09:55 AM)SammyOES Wrote: A unified fare system is a great idea and could probably work without everything being under one big umbrella.

Yes. Unified fares do work in Switzerland, but then again everything works in Switzerland. I'm not thrilled with Toronto dominating our transit system. But it's the Toronto Board of Trade, so it's just probably something that people would talk about but no one would actually implement.

It doesn't need to be unified fares, all we need is a unified fare system so that my stored-value fare card will work anywhere. Ideally on any transit system in Ontario, plus GO, VIA and any government-licensed bus lines (such as Greyhound). It's not rocket science, and it can actually save operation costs rather than increasing them. And no one needs to lose control.

In the Tokyo area (population nearly 40M) the big railways use SUICA, while the subways and small independent local trains use PASMO. But the two cards are completely interchangeable, and you can both use and recharge both cards anywhere.
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(11-30-2017, 05:10 PM)tomh009 Wrote: It doesn't need to be unified fares, all we need is a unified fare system so that my stored-value fare card will work anywhere. Ideally on any transit system in Ontario, plus GO, VIA and any government-licensed bus lines (such as Greyhound). It's not rocket science, and it can actually save operation costs rather than increasing them. And no one needs to lose control.

In the Tokyo area (population nearly 40M) the big railways use SUICA, while the subways and small independent local trains use PASMO. But the two cards are completely interchangeable, and you can both use and recharge both cards anywhere.

I thought that was the vision behind PRESTO (implementation, of course, being a whole other story).

VIA's a bit tricky in that you buy tickets in advance. But there's no reason such a thing shouldn't exist otherwise.
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(11-30-2017, 04:27 PM)plam Wrote:
(11-30-2017, 09:55 AM)SammyOES Wrote: A unified fare system is a great idea and could probably work without everything being under one big umbrella.

Have to say though that I agree with Ken Seiling:

"Our real concerns are with our rail linkages and GO Train linkages with Toronto and that’s already covered off by Metrolinx, we already have an organization that is doing that and working on that, so I don’t see how a super large body would advance that.” said Seiling.

Seiling says he is also concerned about local issues taking a back seat to Toronto issues, “I think there is a risk that the whole plan to build more subways in Toronto and some of the problems they have in the GTA would put at risk some of the issue we have to deal with.”

Yes. Unified fares do work in Switzerland, but then again everything works in Switzerland. I'm not thrilled with Toronto dominating our transit system. But it's the Toronto Board of Trade, so it's just probably something that people would talk about but no one would actually implement.

That sounds about right. Despite the fancy name, this is a big Chamber of Commerce doing some spit-balling. It doesn't have to be realistic. This idea isn't. A strong case could probably be made for it, but politically it's pretty unlikely.
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(11-30-2017, 07:14 PM)plam Wrote: I thought that was the vision behind PRESTO (implementation, of course, being a whole other story).

VIA's a bit tricky in that you buy tickets in advance. But there's no reason such a thing shouldn't exist otherwise.

Right. But we don't have PRESTO -- are we the only ones to reject it?

You could still allow on-the-spot VIA purchases using PRESTO (or similar system), the pre-purchased paper tickets would work in parallel. It's the same in Japan, you can purchase paper tickets or use your SUICA/PASMO.
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