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(05-19-2017, 05:49 AM)Canard Wrote: I think we're the guinnea pig for modern LRT in Canada. You can be assured that when other cities come to see what we've done, they'll say "Oh, let's not make that mistake."
Of course, there is also a lot that they'll see that they'll say "Holy crap, these guys are on-point, that was a great idea! Let's do that!"
I think you missed the point of my post.
Other systems can learn from our "mistakes" all they want, but unless the underlying regulations are modernized, they won't be able to apply those lessons when they have similar situations/circumstances.
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(05-19-2017, 06:59 AM)ijmorlan Wrote: (05-19-2017, 05:49 AM)Canard Wrote: I think we're the guinnea pig for modern LRT in Canada. You can be assured that when other cities come to see what we've done, they'll say "Oh, let's not make that mistake."
Of course, there is also a lot that they'll see that they'll say "Holy crap, these guys are on-point, that was a great idea! Let's do that!"
This sounds reasonable to me. I’m hoping you’re exactly right. In particular, I think that LRT debates occurring after our system opens will look different from previous ones. Most of the “anti” arguments will be proven false on their face by just looking at our system. Right now it’s all theoretical — people who don’t know or can’t imagine are still able to believe that it will snarl traffic or whatever — but once there are systems operating, the Rob Fords and Jay Aissas will find it much harder to convince the people in the middle. I just wish our system had opened earlier so the Brampton and Hamilton debates could have been affected by it.
Don't worry, they're still working hard to get them misunderstood. In London, they did our LRT vs BRT debate and Western University, seeing ION next door going by the quantum nano centre, by grand river hospital, said that LRT could not now or ever (speaking to BRT as precursor for LRT conversion) go through their campus because it would be too dangerous for their sensitive medical and science equipment. They, too, want a station dead center in campus, likely to be even more node-hostile than UW's station. Don't even get started on how they're looking to make their route more vulnerable to blockages and other traffic. They're learning alright. 
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Couple Frederick station updates - signage has already gone up, just a couple days after the feature wall was installed. Also, that last little rail gap has finally been welded, and a tarp is over the area (looks like concrete may be poured soon).
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Forgot I took these from the other end the other day:
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It's so weird. Based on the curbing (at this end, and at the far end), it really looks like you're supposed to drive on it.
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(05-21-2017, 12:10 PM)Canard Wrote: It's so weird. Based on the curbing (at this end, and at the far end), it really looks like you're supposed to drive on it.
Yes, and it ends right at the crossing between the parcel pickup area and the rest of the parking lot, so thinking of it as a roadway makes sense from that standpoint too. I wonder what the actual intent is? I know that people are already using the bit between King and Hughes Lane as a car shortcut. Either way, it should work as a good bicycle route, as long as one is careful to avoid losing a wheel in the flangeway.
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If that's the case, it should certainly get some kind of barrier or demarcation to keep vehicles from straying onto the LRT ROW.
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Maybe it will get those spring-loaded bollards like on Northfield for the two turn-arounds? Obviously it's under construction still which is likely why they haven't been installed yet.
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It is hard to see, but in my first photo, near the man with the orange motor-cycling helmet, they've actually built a installed landscaping in a feeble attempt to deter pedestrians from accessing the Yogurt place (or the rear of Abe Erb, TD, Carter's, etc.). I suspect there will be a well worn desire path through that garden in no time.
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Just got word: Paving starting right now at the King St. Grade Separation!
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(05-23-2017, 07:41 AM)Canard Wrote: Just got word: Paving starting right now at the King St. Grade Separation!
I was thinking the last photos looked like it was very close to ready for that. Thanks for the Waterloo Town Square photos. It’s looking very close to done also.
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