07-27-2020, 07:38 PM
(07-27-2020, 06:51 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:(07-27-2020, 09:39 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: To be fair...there is no requirement to turn right on red. AFAIK.
I think that basic courtesy requires making an effort to proceed, without doing anything unsafe. There is room for individual variation in what one considers safe, but simply sitting there like a bump on a log is not appropriate. Similarly, I wouldn’t consider it appropriate to do 10km/h all the way down King St. just because one doesn’t feel safe driving faster — there are others who need to use the roads too.
Another similar situation exists with moving into the intersection when turning left — I consider it incorrect to sit behind the stop line and then continue to sit there when the light turns red. One has an obligation to enter the intersection (assuming there are no other left-turning vehicles already in the intersection) and then make the turn when it is safe to do so.
I was neither speaking of social pressures, nor do I concern myself with them. Plenty of drivers find it a 'basic courtesy' to drive at least 45km/h through the park, I still follow the law and drive 30km/h, I get plenty of hate as a result.
In term of right on red, I will sometimes, but only when I can see to turn without blocking the crosswalk.