2019 Federal Election

[jeffster]

At this point, I think, unless Trump is successfully impeached, he'll be in for another 4 years guaranteed.  And whether one likes him or not, attacking his base, like what Clinton did by calling those on the right 'deplorable' only fires up the base more. This election is going to be close, not because Scheer would make an ok, or good, or great PM, he likely wouldn't, but it's those on the left continual attack on any that don't share the same beliefs.

I seem to recall a week or so ago people, especially the LGBTQQIP2SAA community, attacking Ellen DeGeneres because she was caught sitting and, communicating with George W. Bush.  She pointed out that she has a lot of friends that don't share her belief, and that you don't have to have the same beliefs to be friends. Yet for many on both sides, you're not allowed to think for yourself, nor can you be friends with people that don't have the same belief system, which is truly sad that we have gotten to that point.

Lots of intelligent people like Trump, and indeed, will prefer him over what the left-side has to offer, which at this point in time is Elizabeth Warren -- who seems to be the favourite. Lots of intelligent people too don't like 'elitists', which tends to gravitate towards the left.

It used to be we had a right of centre party (PC's), right (for a short period of years - Reform), centralist (Liberal), and left (NDP). I'd argue that there was not a heck of a difference between government between 1984 and 2006.

I'm just saying though, that attacking people, either to the right, or to the left, is 100% uncalled for.

What in the world makes you say this? I certainly don't see Trump willingly leaving the white house, but I really don't think he'll win the next election, and the polls agree with me.

This "don't support those who share the same beliefs" is true, at times, and it can be a problem, the right is far more unified, they'll get behind any crazy person who wins a primary (you might want to ask what this says about conservative folks), but why shouldn't the LGBTQ (nice job trying to ridicule them with excessive letters) community object to someone cozying up with someone who denied them their basic humanity? I can have friends who don't share my beliefs, I have many, but I am unwilling to have friends who dehumanize other people.  Whether you think Bush qualifies or not, might be up for debate but I'm so tired of this "oh, they're just different beliefs" being applied to inhumane hateful dehumanizing actions.

As for Trump, there is no excuse, Trump supporters are either brainwashed or corrupt, there is no other option, the reality of the situation is crystal clear.

As for the highlighted stuff, this was required at my daughters high-school. Certain things like 2S (2 spirited), A (asexual) and Q (questioning) are especially important, and they don't want to be left out, not at KCI (or Forest Heights where my attends). Do some research FIRST before accusing me of ridiculing. If was going to ridicule, it would have been LBGTQUUDKWOLLSMWJMMJKLSFJL. That's ridicule.

As for politicians doing inhumane things, well, they all be guilty of that, which is one main reason why I would never vote for any political party, ever. That said, people do change. I don't know if/how Bush changed. My take on Bush was that he was always the 'dog' -- as in, "the tail that wags the dog". The tail being Cheney.

As for Trump supporters -- the vocal ones for sure are brainwashed, or too much New York Post reading, and reality TV watching. As for is voting base, the deplorable's, they're not brainwashed. In the US, you're either Conservative, Liberal, swing (and/or independent) or you don't give a crap. Conservatives will vote Republican, no matter what, just like Liberals will vote Democrats, no matter what. The job of either party is to get the votes from swing/independent voters, and maybe those that don't give a crap.

The US economy is strong, it's dealing with immigration issues, and strong arming trading partners. For 50% of Americans (90% of Cons, 10% of Libs) there is not much to dislike. Sure, their president is a clown, a blowhard, and looks like a Florida orange attached to a malformed potato.

Again, though, some are attacking people to the right for sticking to Trump (and in Ontario, voting in Ford...). It's doesn't say anything about these folks, other than to say that they're sick and tired of the same ole', same ole'. I was surprised that both these guys got in, though I think Ford and Trump are entirely different, other than their weight and hair colour. But attacking those that vote them in, only solidifies that base.

One could also argue the same about anyone getting behind a leader that has had several incidents of racism (blackface), groping women, and embarrassing visits to other countries (India in particular).

Here is an interesting article on why Trump would win:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/15/moodys-t...ds-up.html

Key is economy. If things hold up, he gets in for sure.

As for the Democrats, they don't have a great selection of candidates. This will do them in.

For what it's worth, I think Scheer was a poor choice for the Conservatives and I don't believe he'll win. I'm still thinking Trudeau with a decent minority to very slim majority. Also for what it's worth, I predicted Trump primary and election win, despite the laughs.