Funding roads (taxes, user fees etc)

[SammyOES]

Drivers fund our local roads to around 0% or so. I cannot opt out of contributing to our local roads by not using them.

The first sentence is a lie. Drivers fund a large percentage of our local roads.

The second sentence is true.

Now, OK, maybe you want to use some weird definition of user-pay which includes funding from the general tax base.

You can't have it both ways. Being very semantically precise here on what you mean by user-pay but then using that to make very semantically imprecise statements like "drivers fund our local roads to around 0%".

Fine. Then both the roads and public transit are fully funded by their users. Also, it now makes no difference to the debate what is recovered at the farebox/toll plaza/whatever collection method, because every way of funding the service counts as user-pay (with the possible exception of contributions from the provincial and federal governments).

Nobody is arguing this. If the Government provides a service to 95% of its taxpayers - its reasonable to say 5% of the users are subsidizing (to some extend) the other 95%.

There's a big difference in the amount of users of public transit and road networks. It's why it seems like a reasonable position to consider public transit more subsidized than road network.