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The Bright Building (749 King St W) | 18 + 3 fl | U/C
(07-08-2020, 08:58 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:
(07-08-2020, 07:26 PM)Momo26 Wrote: Sample pictures of a portico?

https://goo.gl/maps/cqYuZ6uHfHHj4kf56

https://goo.gl/maps/iBExUKxtDxv9sh3Y6

I hate to be such a pessimist, but I smell pee in my head just looking at these. I'd rather we not have them.
...K
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(08-02-2020, 07:27 AM)KevinT Wrote:
(07-08-2020, 08:58 PM)ijmorlan Wrote: https://goo.gl/maps/cqYuZ6uHfHHj4kf56

https://goo.gl/maps/iBExUKxtDxv9sh3Y6

I hate to be such a pessimist, but I smell pee in my head just looking at these. I'd rather we not have them.

I confess that I hadn't thought of the pee issue.  I just imagined K-W's skilled drivers bouncing their cars off them on a regular basis.  I think overhangs and/or canopies are the more prudent option.  Smile
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(08-02-2020, 07:27 AM)KevinT Wrote: I hate to be such a pessimist, but I smell pee in my head just looking at these. I'd rather we not have them.

It seems to work for Bologna. Maybe check with them how they do it.

Seriously, you’ve never been rained on while shopping and wondered “why do I need to be rained on just to get from store A to store B?”
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(08-02-2020, 09:19 AM)panamaniac Wrote: I confess that I hadn't thought of the pee issue.  I just imagined K-W's skilled drivers bouncing their cars off them on a regular basis.  I think overhangs and/or canopies are the more prudent option.  Smile

I wouldn’t worry about it. How often do cars go up on the sidewalk now? I mean, yes, way more often than they should, but not really that often; furthermore, I would still have a sidewalk. So cars would hit the portico supports about as often as they hit the front of a building now.

This is a non-problem.
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(08-02-2020, 07:27 AM)KevinT Wrote:
(07-08-2020, 08:58 PM)ijmorlan Wrote: https://goo.gl/maps/cqYuZ6uHfHHj4kf56

https://goo.gl/maps/iBExUKxtDxv9sh3Y6

I hate to be such a pessimist, but I smell pee in my head just looking at these. I'd rather we not have them.

Thanks for the visual, now I can't even look at the pictures without the smell of urine in my head.
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My building entrance has about 9sqft of cover, and gets pissed in more days than not. Perhaps if we provide more covered options folks can spread out their activities elsewhere...
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(08-02-2020, 11:22 AM)ijmorlan Wrote: Seriously, you’ve never been rained on while shopping and wondered “why do I need to be rained on just to get from store A to store B?”
I think that is why enclosed malls were invented.
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... and umbrellas
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And I have yet to have anyone piss in my umbrella!
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Took me a while to actually register you guys are talking literal urine. It's an issue with these types of covering since it provides coverage/privacy to relieve oneself?

Build more public washrooms. Or go Amsterdam style those metal doohickies that one sort of walks into and the pee is on the ground snaking away from said doohickie!
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(08-03-2020, 02:06 AM)Momo26 Wrote: Build more public washrooms.

This is the solution. Although enforcement would probably also be required.

But by building public washrooms it should be possible to give people no excuse, so that nobody should have any reason to gripe about enforcement happening.
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(08-04-2020, 08:35 AM)ijmorlan Wrote:
(08-03-2020, 02:06 AM)Momo26 Wrote: Build more public washrooms.

This is the solution. Although enforcement would probably also be required.

But by building public washrooms it should be possible to give people no excuse, so that nobody should have any reason to gripe about enforcement happening.
As long as they don't close and lock them like they do with the one in Victoria Park. On at least one occasion I had to go beside it because it was locked up.
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That one in Victoria Park is notorious for drugs and meeting people for casual sex, so they often have to close it. I think if it was relocated it wouldn't be so bad.
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(08-05-2020, 12:45 PM)ac3r Wrote: That one in Victoria Park is notorious for drugs and meeting people for casual sex, so they often have to close it. I think if it was relocated it wouldn't be so bad.

We should also think about design of the washrooms. The only area which needs to be private is the actual stalls. A washroom should just be a row of stalls facing a public space that contains sinks. So anybody looking for privacy would have to do whatever they are doing in a washroom stall. That wouldn’t prevent everything, but it doesn’t help that washrooms right now are large mostly-private spaces, sometimes located out of the way.
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(08-02-2020, 06:32 PM)creative Wrote: ... and umbrellas

An umbrella is a poor substitute for an actual roof.

Unless you live on the street and are happy doing so, it makes little sense for you to compare the protection provided by an umbrella with that provided by a roof.
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