General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours

[mastermind]

17k for elementary per year? I wonder if the level of education is THAT much more than public. I guess the much smaller class sizes, amenities, special field trips? make it worthwhile for those select few that can afford to put their kid(s) in there

I knew kids who went there for religious purposes and their parents weren't rich but really felt that having a religious school was worth committing a huge portion of their finances to.

[tomh009]

17k for elementary per year? I wonder if the level of education is THAT much more than public. I guess the much smaller class sizes, amenities, special field trips? make it worthwhile for those select few that can afford to put their kid(s) in there

Montessori school tuition might cost you that much as well. Sunshine Montessori in Kitchener is $14,350 for full-day elementary students.

[plam]

I went to Rockway, and that seems like a significant tuition jump from when I was a student there.

It seems to be about the same as the jump in university tuitions for my time there until now.

That depends on the program. Turns out that University of Waterloo Arts tuition has tracked inflation pretty closely since the 60s. Engineering/CS, on the other hand, not so much.

[danbrotherston]

A private high school coming to downtown:

• Building permit 20-104761 MS
  
• 137 QUEEN ST S
  
• Non-Residential Alteration
  
• Permit is for change of use for existing St. Paul's Lutheran Church to be partial converted to Stanford Academy private high school
  

https://www.stanfordacademy.ca/

You know, it's pretty amazing. This is literally across the street from my home, yet I haven't heard anything about it, except here. This is the kind of BS I'm sick of in our laws. I wouldn't neccesarily oppose this (I don't like private schools, but I don't think they should be banned, they just shouldn't receive any public money at all), but the impact on our street/neighbourhood is at least as large as many of the other changes of use that we see that receive vastly more press and process around doing it. E.g., if they wanted to build an apartment building there instead, this would be front page news 2-3 times before it was approved.

Personally, I believe this impact on traffic would be larger than even a mid sized apartment building, because school start is syncronized, and, I'm going to guess a lot of private school pupils are from families more spread out in the region than a public school, who are quite likely to drive their children. Have they been forced to do traffic studies? I don't even know, because nobody even bothered to tell people who live across the street from this.

Now maybe, this is the right thing, maybe neighbours shouldn't have much say in this kind of thing, but if that's the case, then they should equally have little say when the new proposed use is housing.

[Acitta]

Personally, I believe this impact on traffic would be larger than even a mid sized apartment building, because school start is syncronized, and, I'm going to guess a lot of private school pupils are from families more spread out in the region than a public school, who are quite likely to drive their children. Have they been forced to do traffic studies? I don't even know, because nobody even bothered to tell people who live across the street from this.

There is an ION station right next to this property, so I don't think the effect on traffic will be that great. Also, they target international students which I don't think will be arriving by car. Are they moving from their current location or are they growing and need more space?

[KevinL]

I believe churches and schools are both zoned 'institutional', so there's no need for a review of this.

Would the weekday student crowds have a bigger impact than Sunday churchgoers? I guess when you add in the other weekday traffic, possibly.

[danbrotherston]

I believe churches and schools are both zoned 'institutional', so there's no need for a review of this.

Would the weekday student crowds have a bigger impact than Sunday churchgoers? I guess when you add in the other weekday traffic, possibly.

At a minimum 5x the traffic and over the vastly busier weekdays than quiet Sundays. 

I mean school congestion is one of the biggest traffic issues in our cities.

The last thing I want is my building to be a school drop off zone.

[tomh009]

A private high school coming to downtown:

• Building permit 20-104761 MS
  
• 137 QUEEN ST S
  
• Non-Residential Alteration
  
• Permit is for change of use for existing St. Paul's Lutheran Church to be partial converted to Stanford Academy private high school
  

https://www.stanfordacademy.ca/

Personally, I believe this impact on traffic would be larger than even a mid sized apartment building, because school start is syncronized, and, I'm going to guess a lot of private school pupils are from families more spread out in the region than a public school, who are quite likely to drive their children. Have they been forced to do traffic studies? I don't even know, because nobody even bothered to tell people who live across the street from this.

I really doubt this would have a significant traffic impact. I think their current campus has fewer than 100 students, and most of the international students are living on (or within a walking distance from) the campus.

[danbrotherston]

Personally, I believe this impact on traffic would be larger than even a mid sized apartment building, because school start is syncronized, and, I'm going to guess a lot of private school pupils are from families more spread out in the region than a public school, who are quite likely to drive their children. Have they been forced to do traffic studies? I don't even know, because nobody even bothered to tell people who live across the street from this.

I really doubt this would have a significant traffic impact. I think their current campus has fewer than 100 students, and most of the international students are living on (or within a walking distance from) the campus.

Maybe, but we're both just speculating, was a traffic study done? Why do people get to insist on a traffic study for housing, but not for a school.

And even if it isn't a problem, the same process would have followed for a 2000 student public school.

[creative]

NIMBY?

[danbrotherston]

NIMBY?

Huh?

I don't oppose anything. I just think our laws are stupid.

[Rainrider22]

c'mon, that's a blanket statement that just nullified many of your arguments on here...

[danbrotherston]

c'mon,  that's a blanket statement that just nullified many of your arguments on here...

Well, the context is completely clear to me, but I'll explain it for you anyway.

I don't oppose the school, nor infill housing...

[Rainrider22]

I was joking with you, but I was referring to your statement that you think our laws are stupid... I may notalign with you often however, I respect that you put lot of effort into your posts.

[danbrotherston]

I was joking with you, but I was referring to your statement that you think our laws are stupid...  I may notalign with you often however, I respect that you put  lot of effort into your posts.

Fair enough, that is overly broad...