ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit

[urbd]

10 to go!!! how many of those are in an advanced state of assembly?

[Canard]

All. Only the last couple of LRV’s are in final assembly.

[bgb_ca]

503 was loaded yesterday onto the flatbed railcar.

So when is chase day for 503?

[danbrotherston]

Not too surprising, 503 was ready to go last I heard.

Four trains by Christmas? Not bad.

Yeah, it's only ten short of the already thrice delayed promised delivery date.

[tomh009]

Not too surprising, 503 was ready to go last I heard.

Four trains by Christmas? Not bad.

Yeah, it's only ten short of the already thrice delayed promised delivery date.

Yes, that glass sure looks half empty, doesn't it.

[Canard]

The million dollar question that nobody is asking: “Why aren’t the LRV’s being shipped, if they’re done?”

[KevinT]

The million dollar question that nobody is asking: “Why aren’t the LRV’s being shipped, if they’re done?”

My best guess answer is that the region wants them held at Millhaven until all tests (and final acceptance???) of 502-504 is complete to ensure there aren't any design gotchas that would require a re-work of the remaining fleet.  (Which would probably be better done there, than here.)

I wish there was a way to confirm or deny my best guess...

[Viewfromthe42]

The million dollar question that nobody is asking: “Why aren’t the LRV’s being shipped, if they’re done?”

1) Shipping around Christmas proves unnecessarily challenging/costly?
2) Shipping completed units causes some degree of flustering with Toronto and its own desire for LRVs and streetcars?
3) Until you've proven that you can safely run a train along the entire line, there's not as much you can do, practically, to burn-in ever-more vehicles in the maintenance yard, and to that effect, GrandLinq hasn't likely set their rapidway clearing up, would have to do that, and then would have to get the region to show that it can keep the rapidway clear of cars, which in uptown it has decidedly not shown any ability to do?
4) Some software issue exists which would make them want to hold off on shipping until installed?

[MidTowner]

Not too surprising, 503 was ready to go last I heard.

Four trains by Christmas? Not bad.

Yeah, it's only ten short of the already thrice delayed promised delivery date.

You're right. Getting the trains is good news, obviously, but the most appropriate reaction is relief, not celebration.

[timio]

503 is reported to be in Toronto at CN Macmillan Yard.  Source: Urban Toronto poster saw it pass by his office en route.

[rangersfan]

Article on Metrolinx's new contract with Bombardier and how it could affect the Waterloo Region's LRT.

https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/mobile/toro...-1.3732107

[bgb_ca]

Here's a post on Reddit, with a photo that claims it's 503 outside of Belleville yesterday

https://www.reddit.com/r/uwaterloo/comme...confidence

[DHLawrence]

And here's the Record's take: https://www.therecord.com/news-story/802...dier-deal/

'On Thursday, Metrolinx said the new agreement has improved terms, including "significant financial penalties" if vehicles aren't delivered on time or if the quality is not acceptable.

'Schmidt said the new deal also includes firmer dates, "which hopefully should motivate Bombardier to get the vehicles done."'

[Pheidippides]

It's not clear to me if those are additional financial penalties or if the earlier ones have been waived and the ledger reset to 0 again.

[tomh009]

I expect that the contract is forward-looking and the amount they agreed on will cover any penalties for past delays. It wouldn't really make sense to write a new contract any other way.