10-24-2017, 08:39 AM
Surprise MUT being added on Seagram between the tracks and Albert.
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10-24-2017, 08:43 AM
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We knew of the one heading the other way (curving up onto University), but I don’t think it was on the radar going the other way. What side of the road? Same as the MUT already nearly complete (South)? 
10-24-2017, 08:44 AM
I strongly support MUTs when they're in their own right-of-ways, like the Spur Line, Iron Horse, Walter Bean etc. I wish that the network would be expanded and be designed to be a bit more useful as well - there are some very notable missing links. I don't feel it's the best choice alongside an existing street, though, when segregation of all road users is an option.
10-24-2017, 09:54 AM
(This post was last modified: 10-24-2017, 09:54 AM by danbrotherston.)
(10-24-2017, 08:44 AM)jamincan Wrote: I strongly support MUTs when they're in their own right-of-ways, like the Spur Line, Iron Horse, Walter Bean etc. I wish that the network would be expanded and be designed to be a bit more useful as well - there are some very notable missing links. I don't feel it's the best choice alongside an existing street, though, when segregation of all road users is an option. Segregating all users is always an option, a MUT can be a sidewalk plus a bike path just as easily away from the road as it could be next to the road. We don't do so here primarily for reasons of cost, lack of vision, and really, lack of need, many of our sidewalks and bike paths aren't heavily used enough to make ped/cyclist conflicts a major issue. The irony is that the Spur Line Trail and the Iron Horse Trail are the two major exceptions in the case of need, and yet despite substantial advocacy during the IHT improvement plan, this segregation was not done, although in Waterloo Park this will be done in the upgrades that are currently in progress. But on a road like this, there would be so few pedestrians (and cyclists) that segregation is unnecessary. Even in the Netherlands, where bike paths are often separate from sidewalks, in rural or suburban areas, they're often not, and people just walk on the bike paths.  (10-24-2017, 09:54 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: Even in the Netherlands, where bike paths are often separate from sidewalks, in rural or suburban areas, they're often not, and people just walk on the bike paths. Noticed this myself- when visiting my cousins' relatively suburban home, the nearby connecting paths that would be stone dust here were asphalt paved in that terra-cotta colour they use for their bike lanes.
10-24-2017, 12:06 PM
South side. Currently being completed from the east side of the granite club through the tracks. It was late and I couldn't tell if work was happening towards Albert, but it would make sense to improve connection facilities to the Ion stop.
10-24-2017, 07:51 PM
(10-24-2017, 12:06 PM)timio Wrote: South side. Currently being completed from the east side of the granite club through the tracks. It was late and I couldn't tell if work was happening towards Albert, but it would make sense to improve connection facilities to the Ion stop. Turns out it's not a MUT, just a sidewalk. A nice wide sidewalk... until it tapers down closer to Albert St, which seems incorrect, if this is supposed to be the main artery between Laurier and ION. And also, it has this gem. <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I see <a href="https://twitter.com/citywaterloo?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@citywaterloo</a> us installing wider sidewalks on Seagram Dr near the <a href="https://twitter.com/rideIONrt?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@rideIONrt</a> station. Lookin' goo--<br>WHO DOES THIS?? <a href="https://t.co/dyEG5727hU">pic.twitter.com/dyEG5727hU</a></p>— Mark Jackson-Brown (@Markster3000) <a href="https://twitter.com/Markster3000/status/922972791594475520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 24, 2017</a></blockquote> I thought some of the zig-zagging sidewalks on King St N and University Ave were bad. This is beyond words.
10-24-2017, 08:18 PM
(10-24-2017, 07:51 PM)Markster Wrote:(10-24-2017, 12:06 PM)timio Wrote: South side. Currently being completed from the east side of the granite club through the tracks. It was late and I couldn't tell if work was happening towards Albert, but it would make sense to improve connection facilities to the Ion stop. The ones on King and University are at least realities of progressive development, this was built this way right now. What were people thinking. As for MUTs, I'm not terribly torn up about it, Seagram isn't bad to bike on and has relatively little bike lane parking, its one of the few roads that's probably okay with bike lanes. But oh man, that chicane.
10-24-2017, 08:48 PM
How does that even happen? Who is making these decisions? Who is approving them? How can input from folks like us make its way to the people who are approving these designs?
We were walking in Stratford on the weekend and saw this one, and thought that was bad enough...
10-24-2017, 09:35 PM
Was it THAT hard not to build a simple curve? Jeez Louise.
10-24-2017, 10:31 PM
(10-24-2017, 07:51 PM)Markster Wrote: And also, it has this gem. What exactly is that sidewalk dodging? I see a bit of grass, but surely there must be more?
10-24-2017, 11:04 PM
(10-24-2017, 10:31 PM)tomh009 Wrote:(10-24-2017, 07:51 PM)Markster Wrote: And also, it has this gem. Retort: It's dodging good design. OOOOOH BURN!
10-27-2017, 10:41 AM
Does anyone know the detailed plans of what the Lexington Rd. active transportation will look like when finished. Right now it isn't looking good...there are curbs paved dumping you out on the wrong side of the road >20 meters back from the intersection (don't worry, there are accessible tiles for some reason). I cannot imagine a design where this isn't mind bogglingly bad.
10-27-2017, 07:27 PM
They have fixed it by adding a diagonal piece and a smaller square piece:
Everyone move to the back of the bus and we all get home faster.
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