ION - Waterloo Region's Light Rail Transit

[DKsan]

If the Market Square overpass owned by the public, or is it private sector?

[Canard]

Arrival of first Ion vehicle may miss December deadline, councillor says - CTV Kitchener

Another new plan:

Only one vehicle for the Ion system will be assembled in Thunder Bay.
The rest will be put together at a Bombardier facility in Kingston, where Galloway says work has begun on one of the vehicles.

[KevinL]

If the Market Square overpass owned by the public, or is it private sector?

Owned by the landlord (same on both sides), a company named Dream.

[KevinL]

Different will be the procedure for getting them off the flatbed, though - suspect ours will use ramps like many other cities do (Toronto built an at-height "dock" so they can just roll them off quickly right into their tracks at the yard).

The TTC will be eventually receiving hundreds of the vehicles via the Hillcrest dock, so that makes sense. We certainly don't need anything of that sort for fourteen deliveries.

[timio]

I don't think they'll be receiving at Hillcrest - streetcar and LRV have different track gauges. More likely at the Mount Dennis facility on Eglinton.

[Markster]

The TTC will be receiving 100s of vehicles at the hillcrest dock. 100s for the downtown streetcar order.
They won't be receiving the suburban LRT vehicles there, because they are separate, incompatible networks from downtown.

[urbd]

Confirmed that our trains will arrive via the Waterloo Spur on flatbed rail car, just like Toronto's been taking delivery of their FLEXITY Outlook LRV's.

Different will be the procedure for getting them off the flatbed, though - suspect ours will use ramps like many other cities do (Toronto built an at-height "dock" so they can just roll them off quickly right into their tracks at the yard).

Who's adventurous enough to make a map of the delivery route our LRVs will travel to reach the Region?

[Pheidippides]

When do the late fees kick in? The original agreement said first vehicle by August 15, 2016 and two through fourteen by December 10, 2016 (!).

[Canard]

Who's adventurous enough to make a map of the delivery route our LRVs will travel to reach the Region?

Well, it'd just be the same route that they take now to get the Outlook's to Toronto, except then go down the Kitchener line, and just before you get to the VIA station you branch up the Waterloo Spur.

[urbd]

Who's adventurous enough to make a map of the delivery route our LRVs will travel to reach the Region?

Well, it'd just be the same route that they take now to get the Outlook's to Toronto, except then go down the Kitchener line, and just before you get to the VIA station you branch up the Waterloo Spur.

ok so, who's adventurous enough to draw the full route on a map, as a piece of information for those of us that don't know it all?

[chutten]

And who is in a position to leak the delivery date so some enterprising nerds can get some pictures of the LRVs swanning up the spurline trail?

[Canard]

Trust me, I'm all over that!

[kps]

ok so, who's adventurous enough to draw the full route on a map, as a piece of information for those of us that don't know it all?

Here is the likely route from the Millhaven testing grounds to the local thingy, extracted from the Ontario Railway Map Collection by Paul Delamere under Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0.

[Canard]

Awesome job!

What's not entirely clear yet is if our train 1 will actually make a side trip to Millhaven or not. Metrolinx' pilot LRV's both have to go there, because there's nowhere else for Toronto to play with them, at the moment. But we have our own test track (Northfield-Erb/Caroline), so unless they go to Millahven for Bombardier's own internal sign off, I think they might be coming straight here from Thunder Bay.

Also: What, nobody's edited Google Maps to show the OMSF track layout yet?

[tomh009]

The Record article previously posted does raise a good point: how to coordinate snow removal from both the tracks and public roads (and subsequently where to put it). It sounds like lots of logistics are yet to be determined.  My concern is some boulevards along King (near CKCO for example) are almost nonexistent. Also the new concrete boulevard in front of Sun Life (briefly discussed earlier in this thread), isn't an ideal place to pile snow. Here's hoping it doesn't create any additional dangers for pedestrians/motorists along the route where limited space exists for the piling of snow.

They need coordination, but as far as the snow volume or where to put it, none of this is unique to the LRT.  Many streets don't have boulevards, including some rather wide ones.  Cities have solved this problem before, it's mainly the coordination that needs to be worked out.