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RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - tomh009 - 10-03-2017
I think this is excellent news. Auburn is very much committed to Kitchener-Waterloo, with Arrow Lofts and Barrel Yards already (mostly) complete, and Alexandra and Arrow 2 still left. This development will keep them busy until probably 2025 ...
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - panamaniac - 10-03-2017
At least they are making the right noises:
""We are working on development concepts and have a vision for a range of housing forms and densities on the site along with some office, commercial space and parks."
One hopes for much more than a bigger Barrel Yards.
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - urbd - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 09:15 AM)tomh009 Wrote: I think this is excellent news. Auburn is very much committed to Kitchener-Waterloo, with Arrow Lofts and Barrel Yards already (mostly) complete, and Alexandra and Arrow 2 still left. This development will keep them busy until probably 2025 ...
Committed yes, but known for their bland, boring, and plain ugly architectural design choices (subjective, I know).
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - tomh009 - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 11:09 AM)urbd Wrote:(10-03-2017, 09:15 AM)tomh009 Wrote: I think this is excellent news. Auburn is very much committed to Kitchener-Waterloo, with Arrow Lofts and Barrel Yards already (mostly) complete, and Alexandra and Arrow 2 still left. This development will keep them busy until probably 2025 ...
Committed yes, but known for their bland, boring, and plain ugly architectural design choices (subjective, I know).
Are you referring to Arrow Lofts or to Barrel Yards? As far as I know there are only two local projects that they have built.
And apparently no non-bland, non-boring, non-plain-ugly design company was willing to purchase the Schneider's lands.
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - panamaniac - 10-03-2017
Maybe we should start an "all brick, no stucco" campaign.
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - kps - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 11:16 AM)panamaniac Wrote: Maybe we should start an "all brick, no stucco" campaign.
Actual stucco would be fine, but is no more likely to appear on a new building than actual brick.
Is there an formal name for pile-of-alternating-eifs-and-metal-clad-boxes vernacular?
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - panamaniac - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 11:32 AM)kps Wrote:(10-03-2017, 11:16 AM)panamaniac Wrote: Maybe we should start an "all brick, no stucco" campaign.
Actual stucco would be fine, but is no more likely to appear on a new building than actual brick.
Is there an formal name for pile-of-alternating-eifs-and-metal-clad-boxes vernacular?
Ugly? Garrish? Tacky? Likely to need recladding in 20 years?
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - urbd - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 11:13 AM)tomh009 Wrote:(10-03-2017, 11:09 AM)urbd Wrote: Committed yes, but known for their bland, boring, and plain ugly architectural design choices (subjective, I know).
Are you referring to Arrow Lofts or to Barrel Yards? As far as I know there are only two local projects that they have built.
And apparently no non-bland, non-boring, non-plain-ugly design company was willing to purchase the Schneider's lands.
Yes referring to those 2 and their many other projects in other cities, especially London. Either way, this will be a good redevelopment project, and we're slowly seeing more interesting architecture in the region.
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - Spokes - 10-03-2017
I actually think this is brutal. Auburn owns a ton of different properties in town and is doing nothing with them. Look how long Arrow Lofts took to get started. Barrelyards too. I worry that this won't start for like 10 years.
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - NotStan - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 12:46 PM)Spokes Wrote: I actually think this is brutal. Auburn owns a ton of different properties in town and is doing nothing with them. Look how long Arrow Lofts took to get started. Barrelyards too. I worry that this won't start for like 10 years.
As opposed to the current owner doing nothing with it for 10 years?
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - tomh009 - 10-03-2017
The Record story includes comments from the mayor:
https://www.therecord.com/news-story/7590930-schneiders-site-sold-to-london-developer/
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - Watdot - 10-03-2017
Auburn has "half" completed the Barrel Yards. I'm not being critical of them but this Schneider's project will be a very long play for them. Whether they develop it or not, it's a good investment.
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - tomh009 - 10-03-2017
Realistically project this big will take 2-3 years to get off the ground (planning, zoning, design, approvals etc) so by that time they should be wrapping up Barrel Yards.
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - panamaniac - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 12:46 PM)Spokes Wrote: I actually think this is brutal. Auburn owns a ton of different properties in town and is doing nothing with them. Look how long Arrow Lofts took to get started. Barrelyards too. I worry that this won't start for like 10 years.
I could see a row of towns or stacked towns going up along Borden very quickly - the demand would be strong, I suspect. But you are right, Auburn seems not to be in a hurry with their projects.
RE: Schneiders Site Redevelopment - Rainrider22 - 10-03-2017
(10-03-2017, 04:26 PM)panamaniac Wrote:(10-03-2017, 12:46 PM)Spokes Wrote: I actually think this is brutal. Auburn owns a ton of different properties in town and is doing nothing with them. Look how long Arrow Lofts took to get started. Barrelyards too. I worry that this won't start for like 10 years.
I could see a row of towns or stacked towns going up along Borden very quickly - the demand would be strong, I suspect. But you are right, Auburn seems not to be in a hurry with their projects.
I wonder if Auburn has the necessary Capitol to bring a project this size to fruition. They made need a partner.