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258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | U/C - mpd618 - 05-20-2015
258 Sunview Street
250-266 Sunview Street, Waterloo
Architect: ASP Design Group
Three residential buildings with ground floor retail, one 6 storeys, two 12 storeys.
330 residential units, 106 parking spots. Pathway connection to Albert Street.
Zone change application documents
250-266 Sunview Street, Waterloo
Architect: ASP Design Group
Three residential buildings with ground floor retail, one 6 storeys, two 12 storeys.
330 residential units, 106 parking spots. Pathway connection to Albert Street.
Zone change application documents
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RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - mpd618 - 05-20-2015
This one has a mix of unit types, from studios to 3 bedrooms. It also has a pathway toward Albert Street, which I don't entirely understand the motivation for.
I'm not a fan of the "let's pretend this building is actually multiple layered buildings" design, which I think works especially poorly given that both 12-storey buildings are to look exactly the same.
The Northdale plan got a lot of things right, but it did not set up the conditions for a street wall, which is too bad.
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - Drake - 05-20-2015
Looks like a hospital.
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - panamaniac - 05-20-2015
(05-20-2015, 09:49 PM)Drake Wrote: Looks like a hospital.
Not cheery enough to be a hospital.
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - DHLawrence - 05-21-2015
So it wasn't just me thinking it was a hospital. Maybe they bought the plans secondhand really cheap?
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - Spokes - 05-21-2015
The potential is there. I like some of the lower level massing/tiers.
Taking a look at the urban design brief shows pictures of all three buildings (will post later on tonight) and they're THICK! While, as mpd618 said, a missed opportunity for a street wall is here, so too is an attempt at a wall of buildings 12 floors up.
And maybe some differentiation in design between buildings?
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - Markster - 05-21-2015
The Northdale plan called for a pedestrian extension of Balsam St through to Philip, which explains the path. Though, I don't have high hopes for the Philip/Lester portion.
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - BuildingScout - 05-21-2015
(05-21-2015, 08:34 AM)Markster Wrote: The Northdale plan called for a pedestrian extension of Balsam St through to Philip, which explains the path. Though, I don't have high hopes for the Philip/Lester portion.
I seem to remember that had already been agreed to with a developer or am I confusing this with some other development?
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - Markster - 05-21-2015
Yes, I recall that now. It was at a not-terribly-optimal location of 275 Lester:
http://www.therecord.com/news-story/4872975-final-northdale-appeals-settled/
Better than nothing, I guess!
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - mpd618 - 05-21-2015
Given that these buildings are to have ground floor commercial space, more permeability makes sense to get better internal connectivity in the neighbourhood, even if doesn't result in any better pathway out of it.
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - MacBerry - 05-23-2015
(05-21-2015, 09:14 PM)mpd618 Wrote: Given that these buildings are to have ground floor commercial space, more permeability makes sense to get better internal connectivity in the neighbourhood, even if doesn't result in any better pathway out of it.
The plan calls for a 2.5m (8.2 feet) pathway would have been nice to see a 5m landscaped path ... oh well
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - mpd618 - 05-24-2015
(05-23-2015, 07:06 PM)MacBerry Wrote: The plan calls for a 2.5m (8.2 feet) pathway would have been nice to see a 5m landscaped path ... oh well
This building is asking for zoning changes before it can proceed, so it's not like the plans are set in stone. In fact, I hope the city pushes back on the plans at least design-wise.
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - BuildingScout - 05-24-2015
The zoning changes were approved in exchange for the pedestrian path.
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - mpd618 - 05-24-2015
(05-24-2015, 05:46 AM)BuildingScout Wrote: The zoning changes were approved in exchange for the pedestrian path.
What? There was an informal public meeting on May 11 at which no decisions were made. (Minutes download link.) I do not believe there has been a formal public meeting at which the zoning change would have been able to be approved. If you have data to the contrary, please explain.
RE: 258 Sunview Street | 12 fl | Proposed - tomh009 - 05-24-2015
(05-24-2015, 02:50 PM)mpd618 Wrote:(05-24-2015, 05:46 AM)BuildingScout Wrote: The zoning changes were approved in exchange for the pedestrian path.
What? There was an informal public meeting on May 11 at which no decisions were made. (Minutes download link.) I do not believe there has been a formal public meeting at which the zoning change would have been able to be approved. If you have data to the contrary, please explain.
Formal public meeting date is still pending.
http://www.waterloo.ca/en/business/250-266-sunview-st.asp