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RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - CP42 - 10-23-2021

From today:
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RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - GtwoK - 10-23-2021

I'm almost finished with my 3D development map of the city, and thanks to Lebronj23 for tracking down design documents and site plans, I was able to fill in this development. For anyone who's curious, here's some renderings can help convey the massing / skyline Smile

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RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - CP42 - 10-23-2021

(10-23-2021, 02:46 PM)GtwoK Wrote: I'm almost finished with my 3D development map of the city, and thanks to Lebronj23 for tracking down design documents and site plans, I was able to fill in this development. For anyone who's curious, here's some renderings can help convey the massing / skyline Smile

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This is awesome! However, this doesn’t account for tower 5 being 44 storeys. Is there a lack of public information on that?


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - Lens - 10-23-2021

Looks good! Is there a way to add models to the earth 3D view?


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - GtwoK - 10-23-2021

(10-23-2021, 03:54 PM)CP42 Wrote:
(10-23-2021, 02:46 PM)GtwoK Wrote: I'm almost finished with my 3D development map of the city, and thanks to Lebronj23 for tracking down design documents and site plans, I was able to fill in this development. For anyone who's curious, here's some renderings can help convey the massing / skyline Smile
This is awesome! However, this doesn’t account for tower 5 being 44 storeys. Is there a lack of public information on that?

The original documents claimed it was 44 stories, but the most recent documents say only 24 stories. It's hard to say which is correct, things mightve changed around a bit


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - ac3r - 10-24-2021

It is going to be 44 floors. The documents available to the public are not correct.


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - GtwoK - 10-26-2021

(10-24-2021, 12:03 PM)ac3r Wrote: It is going to be 44 floors. The documents available to the public are not correct.

Will fix up the model in that case, my apologies!


In other news, I can officially see this on the horizon from the top of cedar hill!

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RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - taylortbb - 10-26-2021

I think that's Breithaupt phase 3 you're seeing. From Cedar Hill it doesn't seem right for Station Park to appear to the right of 1 Victoria.


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - ac3r - 10-26-2021

You can get a pretty good view of it on Charles Street. Both towers look immense since they sit upon a hill. The 23, 36 and 44 floor towers are going to look incredibly tall. In fact, I'd define the 44 floor tower a skyscraper rather than a tower at this point as it's above 100 meters (which Emporis defines as a skyscraper). Likewise, using the Emporis definition, the 36 floor Station Park tower, Duke Tower, Charlie West, Virerra 1, 30 Francis, Tower B and C of 146 Victoria, Lower Kitchener, Q Condos and both Cambridge Mill towers will be skyscrapers respectively. There will be more too with developments like The Metz, the Smart Centres project and the Kraus Development (the latter of which I believe Building 1A will be a skyscraper).


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - Bjays93 - 10-26-2021

(10-26-2021, 08:07 PM)ac3r Wrote: You can get a pretty good view of it on Charles Street. Both towers look immense since they sit upon a hill. The 23, 36 and 44 floor towers are going to look incredibly tall. In fact, I'd define the 44 floor tower a skyscraper rather than a tower at this point as it's above 100 meters (which Emporis defines as a skyscraper). Likewise, using the Emporis definition, the 36 floor Station Park tower, Duke Tower, Charlie West, Virerra 1, 30 Francis, Tower B and C of 146 Victoria, Lower Kitchener, Q Condos and both Cambridge Mill towers will be skyscrapers respectively. There will be more too with developments like The Metz, the Smart Centres project and the Kraus Development (the latter of which I believe Building 1A will be a skyscraper).
I personally prefer to go with the CTBUH definition which is 150m for a skyscraper, 300m for a supertall. That said the 44fl tower would meet the definition of skyscraper based on that standard too (though it would make it the only skyscraper in the city)


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - ac3r - 10-26-2021

Do they have a definition for skyscrapers? I thought they just defined buildings in 3 ways: tall (<300m), supertall (300m> as you said) and megatall (>600m). Most architects I know begin to define skyscrapers at 100m and greater because the definition is so varied. In a city like Shanghai or Chicago, 100m is dwarfed by anything truly tall and you'd never really consider such things skyscrapers, whereas in a midsized city like the tri-cities here or even in a major city like Berlin, the definition is more broad since neither of us have tall a lot of tall buildings. To Berliners, Radisson Berlin Alexanderplatz is a skyscraper.

Fun fact, Duke Tower is actually taller than the tallest building in Berlin if you ignore their various antenna towers! Take that, olde-Berlin.


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - tomh009 - 10-26-2021

London (UK) only has seven buildings with more than 50 floors.

In Paris (France) La Défense district (outside Paris proper) has a large cluster of tall buildings, but Paris itself has only a single one (Tour Montparnasse, built in 1973) with over 50 floors. The only tall building this century is the courthouse, built with 40 floors in 2018.


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - ac3r - 10-26-2021

Right, but to the people living there, they'd definitely consider them skyscrapers as the rest of the buildings are comparatively shorter. It's not based on floors, but height and subjective surroundings (which CTBUH also takes into account). London has well over 100 buildings over 100 meters, most of which I'd say are skyscrapers. Likewise, Paris has close to 100 buildings that are over 100 meters. In the context of their surroundings, those buildings are skyscrapers. It'd be hard to suggest that something like Tour Pleyel - at 129 meters - is not a skyscraper in that context. Just look at how how tall it is. Both 30 Francis and Station Park E will be much taller than it is and it's one of Paris' tallest buildings. Duke Tower is 1 meter shorter than Tour Pleyel yet I'd consider it a skyscraper. In the end, it's an arbitrary definition but if it's tall enough, it deserves that title. The day we get a megatall here, then maybe we can redefine these <150m buildings as towers only. :^)


RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - CP42 - 10-27-2021

I know it’s just a rendering, but I don’t think I’ve seen this one posted anywhere. Came across it on VanMar Constructors’ website this evening.

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RE: Station Park | 18, 28, 32, 36, 44 fl | U/C - CP42 - 10-27-2021

I’m also curious to what the ceilings will look like on this project after seeing the discussion of the exposed concrete ceilings at Charlie West.
The rendering I posted above appears to have white painted ceilings while this one, which has been around for a while, has concrete:
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