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RE: Trails - danbrotherston - 11-20-2017
The region outdoes itself again, new record for worst MUT. Here we have, what is literally and actually a sidewalk, with a MUT sign.
I am guessing that this is eventually slated to be replaced with a MUT (although given the positioning of the brand new hydro poles, I have no idea how they're going to fit it in), and it's super ironic that this *already* has signage, and yet, Weber, which has technically been a MUT for years, still doesn't.
*le sigh*
RE: Trails - Markster - 11-20-2017
In my ideal world, that becomes the default rule for all sidewalks!
RE: Trails - danbrotherston - 11-20-2017
(11-20-2017, 10:49 AM)Markster Wrote: In my ideal world, that becomes the default rule for all sidewalks!
This is a discussion I think we've had. Suffices to say, I don't want to let any municipal council off so easily.
It is worth pointing out though, that this is effectively the rule that is actually applied in practice.
Just another unenforced law.
RE: Trails - Section ThirtyOne - 11-20-2017
(11-20-2017, 10:29 AM)danbrotherston Wrote: The region outdoes itself again, new record for worst MUT. Here we have, what is literally and actually a sidewalk, with a MUT sign.
I am guessing that this is eventually slated to be replaced with a MUT (although given the positioning of the brand new hydro poles, I have no idea how they're going to fit it in), and it's super ironic that this *already* has signage, and yet, Weber, which has technically been a MUT for years, still doesn't.
*le sigh*
I literally bike on the road in that area, rather than ride on the "MUT".
RE: Trails - MacBerry - 11-20-2017
(11-17-2017, 12:31 PM)Markster Wrote:(09-02-2017, 05:34 PM)Markster Wrote: There is a difference, that makes the sidewalk marginally safer.
Here's a diagram of Weber St, a bit further north.
I've added in an imaginary pedestrian island.
The two green dots represent people, one on the sidewalk and one on the island.
The red rectangles the path of cars, drifting the same slight angle out of their lane.
The pedestrian on the sidewalk has one additional safety feature that the one on the island does not have, and that is the sidewalk curb. Curbs are designed specifically to prevent cars from mounting the sidewalk at these slight angles. The car will graze the curb and correct. The person on the island is almost certainly going to be killed because the car will have no feedback from the road design until they are driving straight over the island.
So, to bring this back up.
Meanwhile, in Guelph...
https://www.guelphmercury.com/news-story/7926820-city-of-guelph-continues-to-monitor-downey-after-vehicle-runs-over-pedestrian-island/
Pedestrian Islands are better than nothing, but they are the lowest increment better than nothing.
Not really different than a sidewalk if a vehicle mounts a curb there or in the median.
RE: Trails - Markster - 11-21-2017
(11-20-2017, 11:32 PM)MacBerry Wrote: Not really different than a sidewalk if a vehicle mounts a curb there or in the median.
Thankfully, your post quotes my exact response to this exact statement!
RE: Trails - Viewfromthe42 - 11-23-2017
(11-21-2017, 01:59 AM)Markster Wrote:(11-20-2017, 11:32 PM)MacBerry Wrote: Not really different than a sidewalk if a vehicle mounts a curb there or in the median.
Thankfully, your post quotes my exact response to this exact statement!
If you're interested in speaking to local politicians about needing bollards to protect already-narrow islands in high-speed roadways, you can take a look at the Laurel Trail at Weber island; as of last night, someone heading southbound plowed over it at took out the northernmost sign on it. Thankfully no sign of any poor souls being on the island at that time.
RE: Trails - danbrotherston - 11-23-2017
(11-23-2017, 11:56 AM)Viewfromthe42 Wrote:(11-21-2017, 01:59 AM)Markster Wrote: Thankfully, your post quotes my exact response to this exact statement!
If you're interested in speaking to local politicians about needing bollards to protect already-narrow islands in high-speed roadways, you can take a look at the Laurel Trail at Weber island; as of last night, someone heading southbound plowed over it at took out the northernmost sign on it. Thankfully no sign of any poor souls being on the island at that time.
That thing is narrow enough that someone could easily straddle it.
RE: Trails - Viewfromthe42 - 11-23-2017
Narrow, wide, someone in a car plowed over it and knocked the sign flat, and left a tire mark.
RE: Trails - Canard - 11-24-2017
Progress on the Central Promenade reconstruction. #BikeWR pic.twitter.com/GFKHfo8V0K
— ? Iain Hendry ? (@Canardiain) November 24, 2017
RE: Trails - Canard - 11-25-2017
I tweeted about an unsafe scenario on the the Laurel Trail through the University of Waterloo, at the new bus thingie.
How is this even remotely acceptable?
— ? Iain Hendry ? (@Canardiain) November 18, 2017
Someone is going to ride straight into that sharp edge. Move this now please, @RegionWaterloo #bikeWR
cc: @UWaterloo @citywaterloo @GRT_ROW @DaveJaworsky @TriTAG pic.twitter.com/k1Bkz4rBsk
Was happy to see it has been rectified!
Follow-up pictures. Thanks again! pic.twitter.com/uJMjlguEmC
— ? Iain Hendry ? (@Canardiain) November 25, 2017
RE: Trails - jamincan - 11-25-2017
Didn't someone say complaining on twitter doesn't accomplish anything? It actually seems like a really effective platform for easy, quick-fix issues like this.
RE: Trails - ijmorlan - 11-25-2017
(11-25-2017, 02:26 PM)jamincan Wrote: Didn't someone say complaining on twitter doesn't accomplish anything? It actually seems like a really effective platform for easy, quick-fix issues like this.
In the absence of any reply to the tweet of the form “thanks for pointing that out, we’ll get somebody to look at it” it’s not appropriate to assume that the Twitter complaint had anything to do with the fix. Also requests of this nature shouldn’t have to be done in public to get action.
RE: Trails - Pheidippides - 11-25-2017
Apparently no winter maintenance wasn't enough to deter trail users along the Filsinger trail that additional barriers are required:
RE: Trails - Canard - 11-25-2017
(11-25-2017, 03:25 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: Apparently no winter maintenance wasn't enough to deter trail users along the Filsinger trail that additional barriers are required:
See, that’s a perfect picture for Twitter.