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RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - Canard - 12-09-2017
It has the Diamond "Reserved" symbol in it, but I suppose white paint in a turn lane is enough for most people to assume it's a turn arrow.
I really think the lane needs to be painted a different, solid colour - but, I don't think we have a single instance of that anywhere else in the Region, so there is no standard.
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - ijmorlan - 12-09-2017
(12-09-2017, 04:21 PM)Canard Wrote: It has the Diamond "Reserved" symbol in it, but I suppose white paint in a turn lane is enough for most people to assume it's a turn arrow.
I really think the lane needs to be painted a different, solid colour - but, I don't think we have a single instance of that anywhere else in the Region, so there is no standard.
Not sure about this, but what about the bus-only left turn into Highland Hills transit terminal? I have a vague recollection that it might be painted red or green.
Of course that is another example of one of my gripes about Erb/Caroline, which is that the left turn gets a green even if there is no bus there. Let the misguided car driver stew at a red forever, I say!
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - timc - 12-09-2017
(12-09-2017, 06:05 PM)ijmorlan Wrote: Not sure about this, but what about the bus-only left turn into Highland Hills transit terminal? I have a vague recollection that it might be painted red or green.
No, it just says BUS LANE.
https://www.google.ca/maps/@43.4302331,-80.5244817,3a,75y,148.07h,90.85t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1shIQ-CJfWZ74jZ8BIk6WWwg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DhIQ-CJfWZ74jZ8BIk6WWwg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D88.521545%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - kps - 12-09-2017
They could follow the Sportsworld model and have a separate left turn signal that never turns green.
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - DHLawrence - 12-09-2017
Not that people don't use the bus lane anyway.
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - timio - 12-09-2017
I get a good chuckle every time I see a non-bus waiting for the light to change at Sportsworld.
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - tomh009 - 12-10-2017
New poles on Jubilee Dr, in Victoria Park. Are they putting in signals for the trail crossing?
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - KevinT - 12-10-2017
I see a shiny poll and want to paint it black...
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - Pheidippides - 12-10-2017
I'm surprised the VPNA allowed those to infringe upon the character of the park; they almost stick out as much as a road through a park.
So once these signals are up and running, and I am running through the park and there is no one coming along Jubilee, I am legally required to push the button and wait, correct?
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - Canard - 12-10-2017
I’ve always wondered this. It seems like that would be the case...
I struggle a little with my conscious at the Laurel Trail crossing at Erb. If there’s no one there, and I push the button, I have to wait... the I get the green and go, and then cars eventually come, I’m long gone and now they have to wait, but can probably see me riding off and start fuming, which doesn’t help anyone.
If I just go against the red “don’t cross” signal, nobody’s delayed at all, people drive through, happy as can be.
Same at Spur Line Trail/Weber, and Laurel Trail/University.
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - danbrotherston - 12-10-2017
These will be a level two crossing. I'm not sure if there is a button but there is no waiting. It's not a signal.
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - ijmorlan - 12-10-2017
(12-10-2017, 10:02 AM)Canard Wrote: I’ve always wondered this. It seems like that would be the case...
I struggle a little with my conscious at the Laurel Trail crossing at Erb. If there’s no one there, and I push the button, I have to wait... the I get the green and go, and then cars eventually come, I’m long gone and now they have to wait, but can probably see me riding off and start fuming, which doesn’t help anyone.
If I just go against the red “don’t cross” signal, nobody’s delayed at all, people drive through, happy as can be.
Same at Spur Line Trail/Weber, and Laurel Trail/University.
That’s why it should be green for the trail at all those locations exception when vehicular traffic triggers it. Two triggers: one right before the signal to ensure that vehicles never get trapped, and another further back, integrated with other signals where appropriate, so that in many scenarios the light goes green just before traffic reaches it. Best of both worlds.
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - Pheidippides - 12-10-2017
So I guess the poles are for flashing lights not signals (pedestrian or traffic).
![[Image: pedestrians_q5_1.jpg]](http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/images/pedestrians_safety/pedestrians_q5_1.jpg)
"The new crosswalk won't have the overhead lights seen on traditional crosswalks, but will have warning signs topped with a flashing light. Drivers and cyclists must stop and wait until pedestrians have completely crossed the road."
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - Coke6pk - 12-11-2017
I don't know what a Level 2 crossing is, but will it be like the crossing behind Fairview Park Mall where the pedestrian gets instant yellow strobe lights?
Coke
RE: General Road and Highway Discussion - tomh009 - 12-11-2017
(12-11-2017, 12:41 PM)Coke6pk Wrote: I don't know what a Level 2 crossing is, but will it be like the crossing behind Fairview Park Mall where the pedestrian gets instant yellow strobe lights?
Coke
I think this is what an L2 crossing looks like:
![[Image: pedestrians_q9_1.jpg]](http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/images/pedestrians_safety/pedestrians_q9_1.jpg)