Cycling in Waterloo Region - Printable Version +- Waterloo Region Connected (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com) +-- Forum: Waterloo Region Works (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=14) +--- Forum: Transportation and Infrastructure (https://www.waterlooregionconnected.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=25) +--- Thread: Cycling in Waterloo Region (/showthread.php?tid=186) Pages:
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RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - ijmorlan - 07-09-2018 (07-09-2018, 02:16 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: Beat me to it. Still there as of 2:15: I think we’re owed a fairly abject explanation from the City why that vehicle has not been towed. Not interested in any BS excuses. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - jeffster - 07-09-2018 (07-09-2018, 06:02 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:(07-09-2018, 02:16 PM)Pheidippides Wrote: Beat me to it. Still there as of 2:15: Shayne Turner (Waterloo Enforcement)was just on CTV-Kitchener and was telling the news that they started ticketing, but if these pictures are from today, doesn't sound like they've started anything yet. Found it interesting watching the video, some guy in the background was moving the pylons so he could park his car. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - Canard - 07-09-2018 https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1435520 "They've been aware of the problem since the weekend" Ahaahahahhahahahahahahahaahhaa RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - danbrotherston - 07-09-2018 They will have a dedicated enforcement officer for 2 weeks. Great, so we should have relatively clear lanes for a couple of days after that, and then back to full time car parking. To be honest, I'm surprised they're actually enforcing, I didn't think they actually would. I still don't think it'll make a difference long term. And yes, "They've been aware of the problem since the weekend", it's like they're intentionally antagonising us. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - Canard - 07-09-2018 On my way home I went by. There weren't any cars parked in the lanes, but... Lion's Brewery decided to pile about 10 bags of trash completely blocking the lanes. I guess they couldn't put a ticket on the bags. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - Bob_McBob - 07-10-2018 Good post on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/kitchener/comments/8xgkya/i_was_nearly_hit_by_a_truck_while_cycling_on_a/ RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - danbrotherston - 07-10-2018 (07-10-2018, 12:35 PM)Chicopee Wrote:(07-10-2018, 12:39 AM)Bob_McBob Wrote: Good post on Reddit: Every road does deserve individual consideration, I don't necessarily think it's inconsistent, to apply different tools in different contexts. Shared roads are totally reasonable for cyclists to use, this is in fact the most common bike infrastructure in the Netherlands. The problem is, that we're generally unwilling to build sharable roads. Narrowing is the right idea, but something more like 2.8 meters per lane, or less, and with substantial optical narrowing, where the edges have for example, cobbles. A road with low traffic, could even be only 1 lane with turnouts for passing. But our traffic engineers are lightyears away from being willing to build such a road--you can see, they weren't even allowed to use vertical diversions. The latest BicycleDutch article has a great example of this: https://bicycledutch.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/maaswaalpad02.jpg (Article here: https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2018/07/10/fast-cycle-route-maaswaalpad-partly-opened/) The colour, narrowness, vertical diversions, and wide gutters, make drivers slow and share the road safely. They work great in residential areas, sometimes even get away without sidewalks, and are much safer for the residents of the road. I don't think KW has more than one or two roads that would even qualify here (Market Ln. is close). Until we're willing to build such roads, I don't think sharing is a real option here. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - tomh009 - 07-10-2018 What's a vertical diversion? The Dutch cycling article didn't mention that. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - jamincan - 07-10-2018 Speed bumps. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - ijmorlan - 07-10-2018 (07-10-2018, 01:09 PM)tomh009 Wrote: What's a vertical diversion? The Dutch cycling article didn't mention that. I think it means bumps, humps, or any other vertical diversion of the road surface. I think long speed humps are underused — they make the street uncomfortable for fast traffic without making much difference to traffic moving at an appropriate speed. By contrast, old fashioned speed bumps require slowing to almost zero to go over, which does not improve safety compared to a more reasonable speed. The main counter-argument seems to be from emergency services, but I consider that to be mostly invalid because most of the trip taken by emergency services will be on main streets that obviously will not have humps (being designed for some measure of speed). If the residential street which is the location of the call has humps, that just delays the last 1 minute or so of the ambulance trip by a few seconds. In the meantime, on all the days when an ambulance isn’t called for, the slower traffic is saving lives. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - Bob_McBob - 07-10-2018 CTV aired a segment on the new uptown bike lanes, and a driver actually moved construction cones to park while they were there https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1435520 (around 0:50) RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - danbrotherston - 07-10-2018 (07-10-2018, 01:58 PM)Chicopee Wrote: My point for Guelph Street is that there was plenty of room to build a dedicated bike lane. Why not take that option as opposed to a 'share the road' approach where room permits. It's safer and provides a more comfortable ride. Bike infrastructure on main roads is dedicated. But the majority of roads are small residential streets, the same is true here, which are usually shared, again also true here, with good design, definitely not true here. But it isn't a "bike infra road" thing, it's just a "this is how we build safe roads" thing...every road is built this way. And frankly, it's stupid that we don't, the way we build roads is less safe, and MORE expensive. It might be the case that the extra cost to widen Guelph St. would be a waste because of traffic levels, and it would be better use of money to narrow it and share it, but I don't know because I'm neither a traffic engineer, nor privy to the traffic data. But because we cannot build safe roads, then that isn't a real option. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - welltoldtales - 07-10-2018 (05-29-2018, 06:49 PM)KevinL Wrote: It also gives the impression that they don't consider all our roads to be a network - the region has theirs and the cities have their own and they shouldn't consider the big picture. Very frustrating. (07-10-2018, 03:08 PM)danbrotherston Wrote:(07-10-2018, 01:58 PM)Chicopee Wrote: My point for Guelph Street is that there was plenty of room to build a dedicated bike lane. Why not take that option as opposed to a 'share the road' approach where room permits. It's safer and provides a more comfortable ride. Guelph could not have added bike lanes with the widths, and if they did they wouldn't be separated and painted instead which would probably increase speed on Guelph Street. What the city did was "pinch" the intersections to make it look tighter. My understanding is that they started focusing on reducing speeds and then ended up working a lot more on low-impact paving/parking (you'll notice that some of the parking spaces paving looks different, it is more porous). I actually haven't had too many issues on Guelph but there is definitely a "breaking in" period that is necessary. Many drivers still believe that Guelph is some sort of bypass to King. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - Canard - 07-10-2018 Speed Bumps are awful for everyone.
I would argue they are one of the worst ways to calm traffic. RE: Cycling in Waterloo Region - clasher - 07-10-2018 City of Kitchener (and Waterloo) just doesn't give a s--t about stuff like this, I mean the iron horse is in week 10 or whatever of its 5 week closure... |