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RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 08-31-2016 (08-31-2016, 02:51 PM)chutten Wrote: I'm more worried about prevalence of top-up stations. Every mom-and-pop can sell GRT tickets. Hell, my supermarket does. I cannot find the citation, but I seem to recall that it was suggested that top up machines would be found fairly universally, not just at GRT facilities, I think supermarkets were explicitly mentioned. RE: Grand River Transit - taylortbb - 08-31-2016 I think for the top-up machines it's actually a mix of upside and downside for low-income users. The downside is of course that those which must use cash can only top-up at a top-up machine, which is probably in fewer locations than the number that currently sell bus tickets. However, I remember reading that one of the highest users of cash fares are low income riders who cannot afford the up-front expense of an entire strip of tickets to access the reduced per-ride rate. As automated top-up machines generally have no minimum top-up for cash, a rider who's received a multi-use card from a social assistance agency now has access to ticket-like reduced fares, while not having to commit the full price of a strip of tickets. This of course depends on there being adequate reload machines, but with them being located at every ION station and major transfer point it will apply to a lot of riders. RE: Grand River Transit - timc - 09-01-2016 The EasyGO FAQ says that "A minimum amount of $10 must be loaded on the card; therefore you cannot load a single fare ride onto your EasyGO Fare Card. If you wish to ride only once, you may continue to pay cash." Do you think that also applies to top-up machines? http://www.grt.ca/en/fares/EasyGO-FAQ.asp RE: Grand River Transit - taylortbb - 09-01-2016 I interpreted that as a minimum initial load to get a card, not a restriction on topping up an existing card. I could also see it applying to electronic transactions due to the overhead cost of processing a payment, but don't see why it would apply to cash top-ups. RE: Grand River Transit - MidTowner - 09-01-2016 (08-31-2016, 06:09 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I cannot find the citation, but I seem to recall that it was suggested that top up machines would be found fairly universally, not just at GRT facilities, I think supermarkets were explicitly mentioned. I’ve given tickets to people asking for bus fare on the street, and I’ve seen others do the same. Some people I know do that who would not be comfortable giving cash for their own reasons. Some households buy strips of tickets to be used by multiple members. I have a neighbour who asks another neighbour for a bus ticket when he takes one of his very seldom bus trips. These kinds of things are not possible with a fare card. No matter what, tickets will be more flexible than a pre-loaded card, even if you can preload at very many locations and with no minimum top-up, using any form of money. I still don’t think that’s a strong argument against moving away from tickets, but people of less means will be disadvantaged in some ways that should be mitigated where possible. Question for anyone who might know: if an EasyGO card is loaded using cash at a machine, is there any requirement to associate a name or any other personal information with that card? For people who buy passes, can the pass be purchased at a kiosk and a receipt provided, again without a name or other information being associated with the card? RE: Grand River Transit - Viewfromthe42 - 09-01-2016 I *think* only discounted fares need any association. So, like the TTC pass, whoever has the card can use it, unless you're loading it with discounted fares. RE: Grand River Transit - Markster - 09-01-2016 For comparison, with Presto, you only need to register a card with a person when you set up discounted passes, or online balance reloading. RE: Grand River Transit - danbrotherston - 09-01-2016 (09-01-2016, 09:26 AM)MidTowner Wrote:(08-31-2016, 06:09 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: I cannot find the citation, but I seem to recall that it was suggested that top up machines would be found fairly universally, not just at GRT facilities, I think supermarkets were explicitly mentioned. In some ways they are less flexible, although not to the degree you describe. I believe a household would be able to share a farecard, although not for traveling together. I don't know for sure, but I would be very surprised if one needed to provide any ID or personal information to get a card. That would be pretty unusual for a transit system. And in other ways, the fare cards are more flexible. Right now, if you can't afford a strip of 10 tickets, or don't need 10 tickets, you must pay the higher cash fare. With the fare card, you can pay the lower fare in smaller intervals. I do agree, I have given people bus tickets before, and that would be much harder to do with a fare card. There are certainly trade offs, but I believe the advantages still outweigh the costs, I would suspect, even for the less fortunate. RE: Grand River Transit - KevinL - 09-01-2016 As for top-up machines, I beleive Presto has automated units and I am hopeful EasyGo will do the same. We may even see them on Ion platforms, major bus hubs like the Boardwalk, etc. RE: Grand River Transit - taylortbb - 09-01-2016 (09-01-2016, 01:45 PM)KevinL Wrote: As for top-up machines, I beleive Presto has automated units and I am hopeful EasyGo will do the same. We may even see them on Ion platforms, major bus hubs like the Boardwalk, etc. Automated top-up machines are definitely in the contract for every ION station platform. Given that I'll be pretty surprised if they aren't also at major bus hubs. RE: Grand River Transit - D40LF - 09-04-2016 Cambridge Centre terminal update! Driver's Lounge Expanded walkway to the mall RE: Grand River Transit - dunkalunk - 09-05-2016 Did anyone else notice that they changed the font on GRT bus destination signs? I asked a driver and he confirmed they changed in on Sunday. They appear to show a larger, non-shifting route number. There also appears to be more emphasis on the name of the route and less on the destination. I'll post a picture once I get one tomorrow unless someone beats me to it. RE: Grand River Transit - Waterlooer - 09-05-2016 (09-05-2016, 08:20 PM)dunkalunk Wrote: Did anyone else notice that they changed the font on GRT bus destination signs? I asked a driver and he confirmed they changed in on Sunday. They appear to show a larger, non-shifting route number. There also appears to be more emphasis on the name of the route and less on the destination. I'll post a picture once I get one tomorrow unless someone beats me to it. Yes I have noticed this too! So far I'm really liking this change and find it easier to understand. RE: Grand River Transit - yige_t - 09-06-2016 (09-05-2016, 08:20 PM)dunkalunk Wrote: Did anyone else notice that they changed the font on GRT bus destination signs? I asked a driver and he confirmed they changed in on Sunday. They appear to show a larger, non-shifting route number. There also appears to be more emphasis on the name of the route and less on the destination. I'll post a picture once I get one tomorrow unless someone beats me to it. They started popping up last week. New signs now have two exposures, rotating between "# ROUTE NAME" in all cap and "# DESTINATION" in small cap format. Looks good and more standardized across the network. I Wouldn't say that the emphasis is more on the destination, though. Example: 20 VICTORIA-FREDERICK / 20 TO THE BOARDWALK 34 BINGEMANS / 34 TO CHARLES TERMINAL RE: Grand River Transit - Canard - 09-06-2016 Ehhhhhh, I really hate that. I actually just cringed. Why can't it be mixed-case Helvetica? |