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RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - CP42 - 03-24-2023 (03-24-2023, 05:46 PM)ac3r Wrote: Hopefully prior to signing on the dotted line for your condo you did in fact accept that living literally right beside a) one of the Canadian National mainlines b) a Metrolinx train yard c) a train station would indeed be a loud place to live. Funny actually I signed the purchase agreement in fall of 2019 and got an additional amendment in fall of 2022 regarding train noise… but at that point it’s too late to do anything about it as all of your deposits are paid and your financing is lined up. I’ve got no problem with trains going by. It just seems a little silly to have them running 24/7 if they don’t need to be. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - neonjoe - 03-24-2023 (03-24-2023, 05:46 PM)ac3r Wrote: Hopefully prior to signing on the dotted line for your condo you did in fact accept that living literally right beside a) one of the Canadian National mainlines b) a Metrolinx train yard c) a train station would indeed be a loud place to live.Reminds me of Breslau … RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - ac3r - 03-24-2023 (03-24-2023, 05:58 PM)CP42 Wrote: Funny actually I signed the purchase agreement in fall of 2019 and got an additional amendment in fall of 2022 regarding train noise… but at that point it’s too late to do anything about it as all of your deposits are paid and your financing is lined up. It's probably something you'll hear more of in the winter months. Warmer months it's less likely, since it's much easier to cold start a diesel engine in those temperatures. Interestingly, most diesel engines do in fact have things similar to modern cars where they'll turn off on their own as a way to preserve fuel (though paradoxically, it still uses a ton of it to start up again...go figure environmental nonsense makes no sense). So come summer, chances are you usually won't hear them idling unless there is a necessary reason. But this time of year it's not at all surprising and just something you'll have to accept living so close to an important piece of rail infrastructure. At least it's just a couple idling trains. I am sure when the new train station opens and all day GO service starts, you'll be hearing a lot more than that: the sound of GO/VIA/CN/the local shortlines train engines, horns and announcements basically non-stop. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KevinL - 03-24-2023 At least it's not a freight yard! RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - the_conestoga_guy - 03-25-2023 (03-24-2023, 05:46 PM)ac3r Wrote: Hopefully prior to signing on the dotted line for your condo you did in fact accept that living literally right beside a) one of the Canadian National mainlines b) a Metrolinx train yard c) a train station would indeed be a loud place to live. As someone who lives beside a freight yard, and knew so when signing on the dotted line, I don't think it's controversial to wish for improvements. I truly don't expect anything to ever change, but I also know that my quality of life would improve if I wasn't smelling diesel fumes every day or being kept awake by the constant screeching and clanging from the train yard. It's similar to people who move near the Boardwalk and complain of the smell - obviously they should have done their diligence before moving in, but it would still improve their lives to eliminate it. At least the idling train problem is a much quicker and easier fix. To the original complaint about the trains running overnight, my understanding is that shore power facilities are supposed to prevent this. It's hard on the engines to run 24/7, not to mention the huge amounts of wasted fuel while idling (an no, they aren't saving fuel by idling all night instead of having to re-start in the morning). Considering KW is proposing to have thousands of people move within earshot of this area, I think it would be in their best interest to convince Metrolinx to install shore power receptacles. It seems like a pretty simple way to win a lot of votes in the area, at least. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - neonjoe - 03-25-2023 Metrolinx had long term plans for a yard in Baden. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - danbrotherston - 03-25-2023 (03-25-2023, 11:14 AM)the_conestoga_guy Wrote:(03-24-2023, 05:46 PM)ac3r Wrote: Hopefully prior to signing on the dotted line for your condo you did in fact accept that living literally right beside a) one of the Canadian National mainlines b) a Metrolinx train yard c) a train station would indeed be a loud place to live. This is on point. There's a difference between "I live near a noisy freight yard"...and "Metrolinx is needlessly idling its trains overnight for no reason and noise pollution is only one of the many harms this causes". RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Rainrider22 - 03-25-2023 They should proceed with building a staging yard in the west end like they had mentioned before. They could have a proper facility for maintenance and maybe even a platform at the West end of Kitchener before the trains would go park. Also, the work is proceeding well at doubling the tracks in Breslau. They have moved a lot of earth. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - CP42 - 03-25-2023 An update on this since I’ve started paying more attention to it: they do plug into shore power on Friday evenings/weekends. I guess they find. It’s easier to idle on weeknights rather than shutting them down in the evening and starting them back up in the morning… which I feel like could be an easy improvement to make. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - ijmorlan - 03-25-2023 (03-25-2023, 12:35 PM)CP42 Wrote: An update on this since I’ve started paying more attention to it: they do plug into shore power on Friday evenings/weekends. I guess they find. It’s easier to idle on weeknights rather than shutting them down in the evening and starting them back up in the morning… which I feel like could be an easy improvement to make. Plugging in power cords is difficult! Personally, I usually eat dinner cold — much easier than plugging in the microwave! OK, I’m sure there is more involved with plugging in a train, but still. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - danbrotherston - 03-25-2023 (03-25-2023, 03:05 PM)ijmorlan Wrote:(03-25-2023, 12:35 PM)CP42 Wrote: An update on this since I’ve started paying more attention to it: they do plug into shore power on Friday evenings/weekends. I guess they find. It’s easier to idle on weeknights rather than shutting them down in the evening and starting them back up in the morning… which I feel like could be an easy improvement to make. I am completely speculating here, but I don't think it's the "plugging in" that's hard, but the startup in the morning. The locos probably have to be warmed up for a long time in the morning, and if they are left idling the train crews don't have to get up as early in the morning to get things started. But there's no excuse, they shouldn't be left idling. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - ijmorlan - 03-25-2023 (03-25-2023, 03:09 PM)danbrotherston Wrote:(03-25-2023, 03:05 PM)ijmorlan Wrote: Plugging in power cords is difficult! Personally, I usually eat dinner cold — much easier than plugging in the microwave! You’re probably right. But that being said, it’s still not a reason. In the present era, the proper way for this to work is that the yard system knows when the locomotive is required and automatically starts the warm-up process at the appropriate time. Any task that just involves flipping a few switches on a schedule should not require people. If there is a more involved checklist required, that can be done closer to the locomotive entering service. Also, depending on what is meant by “warming up”, that can be done by electrical power supplied by the cable. Even road vehicles have this in cold climates in the form of block heaters. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - LesPio - 03-26-2023 (03-24-2023, 11:19 AM)SF22 Wrote:(03-23-2023, 05:19 PM)LesPio Wrote: Items from today's Ontario Budget that mention "Kitchener" The empty parking lot that Sunlife owns beside Grand River Hospital at King & Union would work well. As mentioned, a site on Wes Graham Way would work well too, possibly an integrated Medical School or Nursing campus would be great. RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Bytor - 03-26-2023 (07-12-2022, 07:56 PM)CP42 Wrote: Does this new trail at central station connect to the Iron Horse trail via Cherry Street? Is there still talk of a pedestrian bridge across King connecting the trail and the future transit hub? RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - KevinL - 03-26-2023 The bridge was in the latest hub designs made public, at least. |