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RE: 387-397 King st E and 6 Madison Ave | 20m | 5 fl | proposed - panamaniac - 06-01-2016
(06-01-2016, 11:03 AM)tomh009 Wrote:(10-23-2014, 09:12 AM)spanamaniac Wrote: Me too. I had just assumed it was the entire empty frontage along King St.
There was a variance request for the property back in 2013:
http://www.kitchener.ca/en/Calendar/Download.ashx?Id=a14a3b0c-01ee-4e94-9aa9-267ec7142747
There is no site plan attached, but one noteworthy fact is that they asked for two parking variances: one to reducing parking from 60 to 56 spots (accepted) and one to reduce street-facing parking setback from 4.5m to 0m (rejected). The outline from the GIS system above would match that, it looks like they have the parking next to the building and abutting King St.
But I think the main part of this project is on hold in any case, we'll see what (if anything) eventually comes of it.
Do I understand that to mean there would be parking for cars between the storefront(s) and the sidewalk (buffered by landscaping?). That seems crazy. Or is it more likely that there would be a parking lot to the "west" of the proposed building?
RE: 387-397 King st E and 6 Madison Ave | 20m | 5 fl | proposed - taylortbb - 06-01-2016
Reading over the City of Kitchener document I think the developer was trying to build a parking lot that came right up to King St (0m setback), and the city said that's not the purpose of a mixed use corridor. The 4.5m setback I'm pretty sure is designed to be so large that no developer would waste that much space on landscaping, and instead build the building right up to King St. The city says a landscape buffer because that's technically possible, but I don't think that's really the intent.
RE: 387-397 King st E and 6 Madison Ave | 20m | 5 fl | proposed - tomh009 - 06-01-2016
I agree. The city wants to actively discourage street-abutting parking. In the worst case they'll accept a 4.5m landscaped buffer zone, but really they want buildings up to the property line abutting the street.
RE: 387-397 King st E and 6 Madison Ave | 20m | 5 fl | proposed - Viewfromthe42 - 06-01-2016
You could fit a creative storefront into 4.5m...
RE: 387-397 King st E and 6 Madison Ave | 20m | 5 fl | proposed - tomh009 - 06-01-2016
Absolutely. Some of the apartment buildings I see in Tokyo are narrower than 4.5m!
But if the developer can't use that stretch for parking, it'll lose him maybe 10-15 parking spots, and that means he'll have to ask for a larger parking quantity variance, or else build parking into the building itself.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 10-16-2018
Has anybody seen a render of the apartment building and supermarket proposed for King St E between Cedar and Madison? Some minor variances were approved yesterday at the Committee of Adjustment, according to the Record. It must be four years ago that I posted the news that there was going to be a supermarket at that location, although at the time I thought it was going to be another Asian supermarket.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - tomh009 - 10-16-2018
Wow ... that property has been vacant for more than 40 years! This looks like it’s far enough now that it will really happen.
The combination of Drewlo and this project will really give a boost to this area.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - MacBerry - 10-16-2018
(10-16-2018, 09:37 PM)panamaniac Wrote: Has anybody seen a render of the apartment building and supermarket proposed for King St E between Cedar and Madison? Some minor variances were approved yesterday at the Committee of Adjustment, according to the Record. It must be four years ago that I posted the news that there was going to be a supermarket at that location, although at the time I thought it was going to be another Asian supermarket.
From the architect's site: James Fryett Architect Inc.
http://www.fryettarchitect.com/portfolio-view/387-king-street/
![[Image: GP12X9p.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/GP12X9p.jpg)
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 10-16-2018
Ahhh, OK.
I think that has been posted before.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - Rainrider22 - 10-16-2018
(10-16-2018, 10:34 PM)panamaniac Wrote: Ahhh, OK.
I think that has been posted before.
thats not eight stories though.
RE: General Urban Kitchener Updates and Rumours - panamaniac - 10-16-2018
The Record article also makes it sound like the supermarket would be a separate two storey builiding (offices above), so perhaps the proposal has changed.
RE: 387-397 King st E and 6 Madison Ave | 20m | 5 fl | proposed - Spokes - 10-17-2018
Moved everything over here.
RE: 387-397 King st E and 6 Madison Ave | 20m | 5 fl | proposed - rangersfan - 12-17-2018
Permits have been submitted for the following:
Permit No: 18129755
Status: Under Review
Permit is for a foundation only for an underground parking garage for future two storey commercial and eight storey residential building.
Permit No: 18131638
Status: Under Review
Permit is for a new 2 storey commercial building with a grocery store on the ground floor and offices on the second floor. Foundation permit # 18-129755
Permit No: 18131636
Status: Under Review
Permit is for a new 8 storey condominium building with a parking garage below. Foundation permit #18-129755
RE: 387-397 King st E and 6 Madison Ave | 20m | 5 fl | proposed - tomh009 - 12-18-2018
The render is a five-story building, the building permit is 2+8, so the design has changed rather a lot. No new renders to be found yet?
RE: 387-397 King st E and 6 Madison Ave | 20m | 5 fl | proposed - rangersfan - 12-18-2018
It's great to see a number of projects in the pipeline for the Market District.