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RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - tomh009 - 04-23-2021 10-day averages for key regions in Ontario, plus the weekly trend as of 2021-04-23 (posting this every two days).
A massive new high for Peel today, up to more than double yesterday. It's big enough that I suspect there is some data catch-up included. Otherwise, the trend numbers continue to be much greener. Cause for some very cautious optimism? RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - jeffster - 04-23-2021 So Canada is securing 30M+ doses per year going forward after 2021. This will be from Pfizer, and will be slightly different at the virus mutates and will be booster shots. Based on that, it looks like we're in this for the long haul. RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - tomh009 - 04-23-2021 (04-23-2021, 12:01 PM)jeffster Wrote: So Canada is securing 30M+ doses per year going forward after 2021. This will be from Pfizer, and will be slightly different at the virus mutates and will be booster shots. Plus the domestic Novavax production. Yes, I think we can assume that these viruses will be around for years to come. Hopefully we will be able to manage it through annual booster vaccinations without having to resort to ongoing lockdowns. RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - danbrotherston - 04-23-2021 (04-23-2021, 12:49 PM)tomh009 Wrote:(04-23-2021, 12:01 PM)jeffster Wrote: So Canada is securing 30M+ doses per year going forward after 2021. This will be from Pfizer, and will be slightly different at the virus mutates and will be booster shots. There is basically zero chance of ongoing lockdowns. It's entirely infeasible, to the point that it's used as a straw man attack against lockdowns we see now. But it's also unnecessary. Even if variants begin to evade our immune defenses, it will be different from the beginning. At the beginning, everyone had zero immunity, that will never be the case again (unless we eradicate it), because most in our society will have some level of immunity to some forms of the virus, spreading will be much slower, and it will be far less deadly in most who are infected. It will likely become similar to the flu's effect in our society. That being said, I do hope we have some social changes as a result. Wearing masks should be more normalized. More emphasis on ventilation, sick days, etc. And regular vaccinations should be more normal. Even without the pandemic, from the flu alone these would have been reasonable changes we should have made, but the pandemic has shone a light on this...even for me, I probably wouldn't have held this position a year ago. On the other hand, I am at an all time high for cynicism. If we can't even get people to wear masks, right now, how can we ever make positive social changes to behaviour. And this goes way beyond even disease, how can we make progress on climate change... RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - ac3r - 04-23-2021 (04-23-2021, 01:07 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: That being said, I do hope we have some social changes as a result. Wearing masks should be more normalized. More emphasis on ventilation, sick days, etc. And regular vaccinations should be more normal. Even without the pandemic, from the flu alone these would have been reasonable changes we should have made, but the pandemic has shone a light on this...even for me, I probably wouldn't have held this position a year ago. Wearing masks should be normalized as it is elsewhere in the world...but I don't think that would ever happen here. In countries where it is - even for a small cold - I imagine it took decades for that to become normalized. Considering so many of our Western democracies were built on the principles of liberté - which has been greatly bastardized in North America through libertarianism and conservatism to support sheer selfishness - I don't see significant changes happening here for a long time. Marx tried to point out the flaws in our modern capitalist societies but never offered a solution, so we've ended up in this post-modern limbo. Democratic socialism seems to offer the best middle ground for now, but achieving anything like it has so far been a Sisyphean task in North America. Maybe one day Deleuze and Guattari's philosophy will have an impact in our mindsets...until any true changes happen...I'll remain a pessimist. RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - tomh009 - 04-23-2021 (04-23-2021, 02:29 PM)ac3r Wrote:(04-23-2021, 01:07 PM)danbrotherston Wrote: That being said, I do hope we have some social changes as a result. Wearing masks should be more normalized. More emphasis on ventilation, sick days, etc. And regular vaccinations should be more normal. Even without the pandemic, from the flu alone these would have been reasonable changes we should have made, but the pandemic has shone a light on this...even for me, I probably wouldn't have held this position a year ago. A whole lot of things have been accelerated during the pandemic, though. Mask usage will surely drop once the regulations no longer require them, but I think people wearing them will no longer be viewed as weirdos. Hand sanitizer in stores may well stay (as little as it actually achieves in fighting COVID-19). Some people will surely continue to do social distancing where practical. Better air filtration will be expected. Overall, I'm confident that it won't be quite the same as before. Especially since the virus won't disappear altogether. RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - danbrotherston - 04-23-2021 (04-23-2021, 03:10 PM)tomh009 Wrote:(04-23-2021, 02:29 PM)ac3r Wrote: Wearing masks should be normalized as it is elsewhere in the world...but I don't think that would ever happen here. In countries where it is - even for a small cold - I imagine it took decades for that to become normalized. I think you are very optimistic. The problem is that most people don't feel strongly about masks, and I'd argue almost nobody who wears them feels strongly. Those who feel strongly are the ones who are screaming that it is child abuse. Those people aren't going away, and will eventually bully others into not wearing masks. This is the problem in a lot of parts of our culture war...those who are incensed AND have power are the regressive folks. RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - tomh009 - 04-23-2021 We shall see. But I will say that there were already many people wearing masks before they were mandated ... RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - ac3r - 04-23-2021 (04-23-2021, 03:10 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Mask usage will surely drop once the regulations no longer require them, but I think people wearing them will no longer be viewed as weirdos. I hope so. I wouldn't mind wearing them when sick and I wouldn't mind others wearing them. Before we even had a mask mandate in the region, I was one of the few that would go do my grocery shopping with a mask on and I definitely felt and looked like a weirdo...I'd have people staring at me the entire time I ran into Zehrs or something. Having lived in Tokyo for about a year, it definitely didn't seem weird to me. It just seems like common human courtesy to wear one even if you just had a runny nose. Yet many in our culture - in the middle of the deadliest pandemic in our generation - think they're a sign of submission to tyrants. Wild. But to me, it felt like a moral obligation and like it was helping to normalize them, so I did it. A couple weeks later suddenly everyone had them and now it's second nature to us, where having your mask is as normal as having your keys or phone on you. Masks would also do a lot in terms of the necessity for paid sick days too. Less people transmitting their colds and flus, the better it is for other workers and businesses, the better it is for the capitalist machine. Would conservatives ever think that way, though? Unlikely, as they seem to be the first ones to call people bitches for having them on. You don't need a mask and if you can't work despite your 38 degree fever, you're probably a soyboy commie. RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - tomh009 - 04-23-2021 FRIDAY 2021-04-23 Waterloo Region reported 81 new cases for today (13.4% of the active cases) and one more for yesterday for a total of 79; 593 new cases for the week (+8), averaging 13.6% of active cases. 606 active cases, -18 in the last seven days. An average of 1,728 tests for the past week, with a positivity rate of 6.65%. 4,957 doses of vaccine administered, with a seven-day average of 4,248. At this pace, the dose count will reach 70% of the provincial population on 2021-06-23 (-2 days). Ontario reported 4,505 new cases today with a seven-day average of 4,132 (-44). 4,698 recoveries and 34 deaths translated to a decrease of 227 active cases and a new total of 41,735. +1,758 active cases for the week and 199 deaths (28 per day). 56,206 tests for a positivity rate of 8.02%. The positivity rate is averaging 8.20% for the past seven days, compared to 7.77% for the preceding seven. 818 patients in ICU (+12 today, +117 for the week) and a total of 2,287 patients hospitalized (+355 for the week). ICU numbers are still going up, but the pace of hospitalization appears to be easing a bit. 133,872 doses of vaccine administered, with a seven-day average of 108,091. At this pace, the dose count will reach 70% of the provincial population on 2021-06-13 (-2 days). The regional completion date currently lags the provincial one by 10 days (+0 today).
Only regions with at least two cases per 100,000 population RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - danbrotherston - 04-23-2021 (04-23-2021, 04:38 PM)ac3r Wrote:(04-23-2021, 03:10 PM)tomh009 Wrote: Mask usage will surely drop once the regulations no longer require them, but I think people wearing them will no longer be viewed as weirdos. I think the irony is that those who throw the biggest tantrums about it today, might not necessarily have been wearing them before, but certainly would have been less resistant to it. I put it in a tweet, but this is a culture war. They dislike masks not for any reasons related to masks, but because of who is wearing them, and that others are telling them to wear them. Whether it is because wearing a mask is an admission that their belief of individualism is a delusion, or if it's merely an opposition response to expertise, it's not about masks. RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - ac3r - 04-23-2021 Looks like the Indian variant is now spreading through Ontario: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-ontario-april-23-2021-pregnant-women-vaccines-1.5999347 RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - plam - 04-24-2021 (04-23-2021, 07:16 PM)ac3r Wrote: Looks like the Indian variant is now spreading through Ontario: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-ontario-april-23-2021-pregnant-women-vaccines-1.5999347 Still more concerned with B117. I think that B1617 is more of an issue when there's already quite a lot of existing natural immunity (vs vaccine-based immunity), which is the case more in India than here. B117 seems to outcompete other strains including B1617. Having said that, the border should still be more closed, i.e. people should not be able to bypass quarantine. RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - ac3r - 04-24-2021 The owner of Innocentes Brewing has gone full wacko, joining the leagues of the "plandemic" crowd. He'll be speaking in Stratford tomorrow at an anti-mask/lockdown conspiracy convention with Randy Hiller and Derek Sloan. They put "Molecular Biology, Genetics & Cancer at McMaster University" in his little bio as if it implies he has some sort of insider knowledge on the virus, but I believe all he studied was wheat germination or something similar related to beer brewing. https://www.stratfordbeaconherald.com/news/local-news/stratford-police-to-watch-and-record-sundays-unauthorized-family-freedom-rally-with-potential-charges-to-follow https://smartcdn.prod.postmedia.digital/nexus/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/0423-sf-police-rally.jpg Separate from that, WRPS is launching a "COVID-19 Integrated Response Team" to deal with violations of public health orders. Will they shut down Trinity Bible Chapel at last? I have my doubts: https://www.wrps.on.ca/en/news/waterloo-regional-police-launch-covid-19-integrated-response-team.aspx RE: The COVID-19 pandemic - tomh009 - 04-24-2021 SATURDAY 2021-04-24 Waterloo Region reported 121 new cases for today (20.1% of the active cases) and 10 more for yesterday for a total of 91; 643 new cases for the week (+50), averaging 15.0% of active cases. 639 active cases, +42 in the last seven days. Next testing report on Tuesday. Next vaccination report on Monday. Ontario reported 4,094 new cases today with a seven-day average of (also!) 4,094 (-36). 4,332 recoveries and 24 deaths translated to a decrease of 262 active cases and a new total of 41,473. +779 active cases for the week and 189 deaths (27 per day). 52,160 tests for a positivity rate of 7.85%. The positivity rate is averaging 8.23% for the past seven days, compared to 7.98% for the preceding seven. 833 patients in ICU (+15 today, +107 for the week) and a total of 2,277 patients hospitalized (+212 for the week). 126,694 doses of vaccine administered, with a seven-day average of 110,865. At this pace, the dose count will reach 70% of the provincial population on 2021-06-12 (-1 day).
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